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Re: New Website for Armidale & New England History - Aboriginal History
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 12 October 14 01:06 BST (UK) »
Hi
http://records.ancestry.com.au/phoebe_chapman_records.ashx?pid=150855901
The author of this tree has a non-aboriginal heritage for PHOEBE CHAPMAN.

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Re: New Website for Armidale & New England History - Aboriginal History
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 12 October 14 01:35 BST (UK) »
Phoebe arrived with her parents and siblings.

Per Parsee. 1853. To Moreton Bay.   Reels 2136, 2465

CHAPMAN, Phoebe aged 11. 
CHAPMAN Anna Maria, 9 years
CHAPMAN James, 44 years
CHAPMAN James, 18 years.
CHAPMAN John, 12 years.
CHAPMAN Martha, Infant
CHAPMAN, Mary Ann. 40 years.
CHAPMAN Robert, 3 years

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Re: New Website for Armidale & New England History - Aboriginal History
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 12 October 14 01:49 BST (UK) »
National Directory 1867 New England and Armidale
J CHAPMAN, Toryburn
R CHAPMAN, Toryburn
R CHAPMAN, Retreat
G CHAPMAN, Waterloo


Do you have a copy of the 1859 marriage for Phobe CHAPMAN and William BENTLEY, (NSW BDM #3109)

If Phoebe was not  yet 21, then it should give the name of the person to gave consent to a minor’s marriage, this information was usually recorded in the ‘white space’ section of the document, near to where it shows “according to the” (rites of the denomination).

As it was a rural marriage, it is likely that the NSW BDM received only a summary of the registration, and so it is likely that the NSW BDM copy has not listed the parents for either the bride or the groom, or their Dad’s occupations, or their own places of birth, or their own ages.    However, these vital family history clues can usually be found as the clergy were required to record them.   These details are usually recorded on the original registers, which (being rural) have not been reconciled to the NSW BDM register.

NSW BDM birth registrations also required the informant to state the places of birth for each of the parents, their then ages, and where and when married.  So perhaps there’s some clues re Phoebe’s origins on one or more of the civil registrations for the couple’s children.   

Well found Sue  :)

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« Reply #30 on: Sunday 12 October 14 01:53 BST (UK) »
NSW Electoral Roll 1870 NEW ENGLAND
James CHAPMAN, Saumares Ponds, residence
Robert CHAPMAN, Toryburn, freehold (at) Toryburn
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John CHAPMAN, Toryburn, residence
John CHAPMAN, Eversleigh, residence

JM notes there's SEVEN chaps with that surname on that roll  :)

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« Reply #31 on: Sunday 12 October 14 01:56 BST (UK) »
Hi dvd2,

Welcome to Rootschat, a fantastic place for help with family history.

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« Reply #32 on: Sunday 12 October 14 01:58 BST (UK) »
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4790/Parsee_11%20Jan%201853/4_479000379.jpg&No=1

The NSW SRO has the passenger list imaged, free to search. 

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Re: New Website for Armidale & New England History - Aboriginal History
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 12 October 14 03:43 BST (UK) »
I omitted a child from the list ::)

CHAPMAN, Ann E. 16 years.
Arrival details as above.

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Re: New Website for Armidale & New England History - Aboriginal History
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 12 October 14 12:49 BST (UK) »
Hi David,

Looks like Sue has found some answers for you regarding Phoebe. You are right that there were very few women in the New England in the early days, particularly the 1840-60s.  The Railway came in 1883 which opened things up more.   

There are quite a few Chapmans around the area, my surname is Chapman however my husband's family were from the Hunter.  I have knowledge of Chapmans in the Inverell and Moonbi areas particularly. The Moonbi school had an exhibition with photos of some and the Inverell Pioneers village also have pics of Chapmans on display.  So many relatives around the New England for yourself.

Caroline

PS my index of Aboriginal identities is now up to 470 and I still have some more finds to list. www.armidalehistory.com
Clarke (The Gap QLD) , Morehouse (Cobram vic), Jepson, Garland, Tilsley, Wiggins (Tasmania)

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Re: New Website for Armidale & New England History - Aboriginal History
« Reply #35 on: Monday 13 October 14 03:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks all for these very quick and generous responses. I am now more intrigued than ever and will have to look into this further.
David