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Re: Stoke ?? Shropshire (HAMLET)
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 16 July 16 23:14 BST (UK) »
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1861 C  Poynton Green    Ercall Magna

Sarah Evans   Head    F   31                                           Ercall Magna, Shropshire
Joseph Evans   Son           M   9                                           Ercall Magna, Shropshire
Wm Evans           Son           M   7                                           Ercall Magna, Shropshire
John Evans           Son           M   2                                           Ercall Magna, Shropshire
John Hamlet   Brother   M   44 Unm   Farmers Labourer     Ercall Magna, Shropshire




1861 C   Moss Street   Oxton Cheshire

John Hamlet   Head   M    45  Mar        Domestic Gardener     Stoke, Shropshire
Lydya Hamlet   Wife   F     36                                           Oxton, Cheshire
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carnal,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre, Chettoe,Cooper,Erpe,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam,Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds, Roberts,Rogers,Salter,Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Stoke ?? Shropshire (HAMLET)
« Reply #19 on: Monday 18 July 16 18:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks Alderbury but that's clearly the wrong family of Hamlets. John Hamlet was married in Liverpool  in 1849 working as a brick maker so it's unlikely he was back in Shropshire making shoes in 1851 but that is him and his wife Lydia in 1861.

There must have been more than one John with a father named Joseph. I need to go back to my tree and review the line.

R

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Re: Stoke ?? Shropshire (HAMLET)
« Reply #20 on: Monday 18 July 16 22:38 BST (UK) »
John Hamlet bap 4 December 1816 HIGH ERCALL, SHROPSHIRE   
parents: Joseph & Elenor Hamlet

John Hamlet bap 8 February 1818   STOKE UPON TERN, SHROPSHIRE
parents: Joseph & Martha Hamlet




Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carnal,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre, Chettoe,Cooper,Erpe,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam,Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds, Roberts,Rogers,Salter,Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Stoke ?? Shropshire (HAMLET)
« Reply #21 on: Monday 18 July 16 22:45 BST (UK) »
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1871 C   Oxton   Cheshire

John Hamlet            Head   50  Car Owner   Stoke, Shropshire
Lydia Hamlet            Wife      44                    Woodchurch, Cheshire
Thomas Hamlet            Son      23                    Olton, Cheshire
Andrew Hamlet            Son      20                    Olton, Cheshire
Martha Hamlet           Daughter   19                    Olton, Cheshire
Elizabeth Hamlet        Daughter   16                    Olton, Cheshire
John Hamlet           Son      15                    Olton, Cheshire
William Henry Hamlet   Son      13                    Olton, Cheshire
Alexander Hamlet   Son      11                    Olton, Cheshire
Emily Hamlet           Daughter   8                    Oxton, Cheshire
Harriet Hamlet           Daughter   6                    Oxton, Cheshire
Samuele Hamlet           Son      3                    Oxton, Cheshire
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carnal,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre, Chettoe,Cooper,Erpe,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam,Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds, Roberts,Rogers,Salter,Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Stoke ?? Shropshire (HAMLET)
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 19 July 16 09:23 BST (UK) »
I think you have probably reached the place where I stopped some years ago!

I have the family back to 1871 - I am descended from daughter Emily and "car owner" reflects the family firm owning horse-drawn cabs in Birkenhead.

It then appears that there are two father/son Jacob/Johns at around the same time in Shropshire. At first sight it looks more likely to be the second ones and I'm intending to have another look this morning.

R

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Re: Stoke ?? Shropshire (HAMLET)
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 28 July 16 12:59 BST (UK) »
The John Hamlet I found earlier that Alderbury has found also had a Brother;
SAMUEL Hamlet Christened 25 July 1824 Stoke Upon Tern.

Unfortunately he is not with his Parents in 1841 Census.

F/S has a possible Burial 4 March 1828   Upton-Waters, Shropshire for a MARTHA Hamlet.

If this is Martha Joseph would likely have remarried.

Having trouble with Anc so cant track John 1881 in earlier Census yet.
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Re: Stoke ?? Shropshire (HAMLET)
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 28 July 16 20:09 BST (UK) »
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1841 C  Stoke Hall    Stoke Upon Tern

Thomas Walley      M   25-29   Shropshire
Mary Walley      F   20-24   Shropshire
Samuel Walley      M   15-19   Shropshire
James Beeston      M   15-19   Shropshire
Samuel Hamlet      M   15-19   Shropshire
Mary Randles      F   25-29   Shropshire
Ann Simon              F   15-19


1861 C  Ercall Heath    Childs Ercall

Samuel Hamlet   Head      35  Agricultural Labourer   Stoke Upon Tern, Shropshire
Eliza Hamlet   Wife      29                                   Uffington, Shropshire
Joseph Hamlet   Son      8                                   Bolas Magna, Shropshire
Thomas Hamlet   Son      4                                  Childs Ercall, Shropshire
Emma Hamlet   Daughter   2                                  Childs Ercall, Shropshire
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carnal,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre, Chettoe,Cooper,Erpe,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam,Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds, Roberts,Rogers,Salter,Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Stoke ?? Shropshire (HAMLET)
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 07 August 16 15:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish/Alderbury. I've not been ignoring you, I've been away and, meanwhile, my FindMyPast sub. has eventually expired.

I'll have a look at your suggestions and take them on board as and when I can verify them - which may be a while as I'm away more than I'm here for the next couple of months and I don't feel like renewing a sub. that I'm not going to make use of.

Cheers
Ray