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James Chalmers Bruce
« on: Wednesday 13 April 11 15:24 BST (UK) »
Does anyone know anything about James Chalmers Bruce born c. 1874 in Buckie. His parents were James Bruce and Isabella who's maiden name was also Bruce. They were both deceased at the time of James's wedding to Andrina Tait in Shetland on 1st March 1907. One of thwe witnesses at the wedding was Alexander R Bruce.

James was a Cooper (journeyman) at the time of his marriage, does anyone know if records were kept of apprentices by the Coopers that taught them?

James and Andrina went on to have 10 children the youngest of whom was another James Chalmers Bruce my late father-in-law.

Hope someone can be of help!

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James Chalmers Bruce - part 2!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 April 11 16:04 BST (UK) »
Since posting my last msg I have stumbled on a bit more info that may or may not be relevent.

Have found an Isabella Bruce born on 10 Aug 1850 in Alvah Banffshire to parents Alexander Bruce and Jane Chalmers.

Could this be 'my' Isabella? Any information would be much appreciated.

Barbara

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Re: James Chalmers Bruce
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 April 11 16:39 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

You raised a new post for the following info but I will copy it here for continuity

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Since posting my last msg I have stumbled on a bit more info that may or may not be relevent.

Have found an Isabella Bruce born on 10 Aug 1850 in Alvah Banffshire to parents Alexander Bruce and Jane Chalmers.

Could this be 'my' Isabella? Any information would be much appreciated.

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Re: James Chalmers Bruce
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 April 11 16:52 BST (UK) »
This is the 1881 census for Buckie.  All children from and including William were b Buckie

James Bruce 38 b Keith Banffshire - occ carter
Isabella 37 b Black Isle Rosshire
Isabella   14 b Huntly, Aberdeenshire
William  11
James  8
Catherine A   6
John  4
Francis   1
Rathven ED 7 Page 17 Line 15
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Re: James Chalmers Bruce
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 April 11 16:58 BST (UK) »
Do we have a problem with Isabella's maiden name or is it the wrong 1881 family??

ISABELLA BRUCE   Birth:  04 FEB 1867   Huntly, Aberdeen   
Father:  JAMES BRUCE    Mother:  ISABELLA URQUHART 

JAMES BRUCE   Birth:  22 MAR 1872   Rathven, Banff   
Father:  JAMES BRUCE    Mother:  ISABELLA URQUHART
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Re: James Chalmers Bruce
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 April 11 17:07 BST (UK) »
In 1891 - the same family have additional children as follows - all b Buckie

Alexander   9
Charles   7
Thomas   4
Adam  2

There is this submitted IGI entry showing the marriage of James & Isabella

James Bruce  Birth:  About 1849   Rathven, Banff   Spouse:  Isabella Urquhart     Marriage:  18 JUN 1866   Rathven, Banff 
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Re: James Chalmers Bruce
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 April 11 19:07 BST (UK) »
Sent a reply but not sure if you got it. I know of this family but I don't think it's the one i'm looking for. My James Chalmers Bruce has Isabella Bruce M.S.Bruce entered as his mother on both his marriage and death certificates.

I would like to try and find more info on the Alexander Bruce and Jane Chalmers family.

Thanks for your reply

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Re: James Chalmers Bruce
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 April 11 19:31 BST (UK) »
The 1881 and 1891 entries I posted above are the only ones showing a James Bruce b Buckie 1873-1875 with parents James and Isabella

Did you get his birthyear and birthplace from the 1911 census?

In 1901 - a James Bruce 27 b Buckie was in lodgings with the Salter family in Fordyce.  His occupation was herring barrel cooper

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Re: James Chalmers Bruce
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 April 11 19:47 BST (UK) »
My James and Isabella were both deceased at the time of James Bruce and Andrina Taits marriage in 1907.
This is so confusing as there were so many James and Isabella Bruces around the same time...who said this was ever going to be easy!!
There is also confusion as his death certificate has him aged 70 in 1944 but his marriage cert has him 28 in 1907.  Family stories has it that he lied about his aged to marry Anderina who would have been 12 years younger than him if his death age is correct.
On his death certificate ( 19 April 1944) it names his father as James Bruce, seaman, merchant service (deceased) and mother as Isabella Bruce M.S. Bruce (deceased). Marriage cert states exactly the same.