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Offline Jean Price

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Holme Cultram - a building or a place?
« on: Wednesday 20 April 11 07:09 BST (UK) »
Please excuse the ignorance of one from the south Pacific Ocean - and Googling is confusing me further.

Is Holme Cultram a building, as in a church, abbey, religious institution,

OR is it a place as in a geographical site which has road(s), people living and working, more than one building?

I have ancestors who were christened/married in the Parish Church, Holme Cultram.

Does that mean the church is in the place called Holme Cultram, or that the parish church is called Holme Cultram?

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Jean
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Re: Holme Cultram - a building or a place?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 April 11 07:29 BST (UK) »
Holme Cultram is a place in the UK in Cumberland and your ancestors where married in the parish church of Holme Cultram  i.e. the church which serves the parish (place) of Holme Cultram.

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Re: Holme Cultram - a building or a place?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 April 11 07:34 BST (UK) »
Genuki might help.  Always a useful site for this sort of query.  Click on the various blue links for more information.
http://genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CUL/HolmCultram/index.html

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Re: Holme Cultram - a building or a place?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 April 11 08:26 BST (UK) »
I think Holme Abbey is now Abbeytown. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=317228&Y=550688&A=Y&Z=120

See Holm St Cuthbert to the SW.
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Re: Holme Cultram - a building or a place?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 April 11 09:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you all,

Holme Cultram seems to be the name of the parish - and a parish has a church  - so that seems to be the answer to both my questions.

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Re: Holme Cultram - a building or a place?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 April 11 11:54 BST (UK) »
Jean, even better. If you go to cumberlandroots.co.uk, you will find electronic records of Holme Cultram parish that you can search for your rels. You didn't give any names or I would have got you started. For anyone else interested, some idiots burn't the roof off the abbey last year or the year before so before they fully restore it there is going to be a lot of archeology in the abbey and then restore the roof!bob
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Re: Holme Cultram - a building or a place?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 April 11 13:32 BST (UK) »
... some idiots burn't the roof off the abbey last year or the year before so before they fully restore it there is going to be a lot of archeology in the abbey and then restore the roof! ...

Nearly 5 years ago Bob, now sorted -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbeytown
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Re: Holme Cultram - a building or a place?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 April 11 14:24 BST (UK) »
Ah! Geoff. That's what old age does for you.I was going to volunteer for the archeology when I saw it but I think the chateau called. bob
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Re: Holme Cultram - a building or a place?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 April 11 10:08 BST (UK) »
Hello Bob and Geoff,

Thank you for the replies.

I was trying to persuade my mapping programme ("Family Atlas"), that Holme Cultram is a place, but the programme insisted that I needed Abbey Town.
So, Abbey Town it is, with Holme Cultram, a magnificent building within the vicinity, that some vandals tried to wreck.

I also have trouble in getting my mind to accept that ordinary folk would be baptised and married in such a huge building. (My Primitive Methodist ancestors from Berkshire are obviously whispering in my ear).

Bob- thank you for the suggestion of getting me on my way - my Hodgson's and Holliday's are well documented - Barry Lawman's site is wonderful - especially as we share ancestors.

Regards,
Jean
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