Family in India John O'Brien b 4 Dec, baptised 11 Dec 1853, Kurachee, Bombay

[brionne]

No luck with the marriage.
1891 Dennis Crowley, father in law,63 Widower,living on own means born Ireland.
living at 67 Station Rd Middlesbrough Yorks.
John Fane innkeeper wife and Margaret Fane born Bombay.
With 3 servants.
As regards Dennis Crowleys Army Records,there are two men born Ireland, both in East Indies in your time frame,includes Indian Mutiny.

Dennis Crowley born parish, Ross,Clonakilty Cork,1829. PTE 2920 54th Foot then 62nd Foot.served 11 years,medical discharge at Chatham 13 May 1862,due to, cant read ,problems due to seige of Dehli.Intended address,Ireland then America.

Denis Crowley born Suttons New Ross Wexford.1827. PTE 1400 3rd European Inf,then Brit Army 106th as Corporal.served 21 years.Good conduct,discharged Mullingar.11thJune 1866.Intended address,cant read Ireland.

There are no dependants listed on either record,later records usually have some.
If you need to nail down the right guy suggest you post on the Military Board for expert help.

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Hi again Brionne - thank you for this.  It seems that Dennis Crowley died in Middlesbrough in 1900, but the age is somewhat out.

RE the fact the Patrick O'Brien was in the 64th Foot, I'm initially thinking Denis Crowley is the one born Ross, Cork in 1829.

Are there such records for Patrick O'Briens at this time?  Where did you see these?

Cheers!

[originQuest]

Hi there, just taken out a sub for the Forces War Records sight - what is it that I'm looking for there, in terms of Patrick O'Brien?  I've found the medal roles but they don't give any other information other than the year 1857 ...

Thank you.

[brionne]

Both the Dennis Crowley army records that I listed were  found on Find My Past.,with several original detailed images.pay site, was looking for any other details which may be helpful.

My own experience with finding Brit army records in Ireland, has shown that very often the marriages of soldiers take place where ever the regiment is stationed, also children born,[in this case kids already found in India.]
64th left Ireland sometime in 1848.
Sorry have come to a full stop with this,Army Records are quite a specialist field.Good luck ,pleased to have helped.

[originQuest]

Brionne  you've been a fantastic help ... I will post on the military board too especially as this seems to prove Patrick wasn't a ship carpenter despite his son's declaration.

I wonder though ... if Patrick O'Brien and Catherine Burke married in Ireland BEFORE 1848 then she was very young and there is a large gap between the marriage and John's birth in 1853. I wonder if Catherine was already out in India with her father John Burke? And they met out there perhaps?

Thank you again.

[brionne]

The latest newspapers have come on FindMyPast Ireland today.
There are a couple of interesting bits.

Dublin Daily Express 18 November 1857.
A private letter from the wife of a medical officer,dated Burdwan [ India]8th October 1857.
this regarding the awful human suffering subjected to women by the so called,, King of Dehli,,
she says that the English soldiers wanted to catch and hang him outside the Dehli city walls.
Also mentions the great kindness shown to her husband and herself by the Maharajah.
Several reports about 64th homecoming from India.

Belfast Mercury 14 August 1861
The transport conveying the 64th home from India arrived at Spithead,while the Queen was on board the Royal Yacht,when her majesty sent one of her suite to inquire about the health of the officers and men,at the same time expressing a hope that they had had a good passage home.
Brionne.

[originQuest]

Thank you Brionne -lots to think about!  Great to have a wider context here too.  Must do more reading.

I will keep adding new info here as more I gain it.  THANK YOU again!

[originQuest]

A RC burial of a Michael Burke from 1846, A SERGEANT IN THE 9th FOOT REG:


British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Deaths & Burials Transcription

name    Michael Burke
Birth year    1801 Aged    45
Burial date    30 Apr 1846
Place    Meerut
Archive Reference    N-1-RC Folio    Page    61

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 Catherine Birrane

 in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
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Name:    Catherine Birrane
Gender:    Female
Residence Place:    Boherroe
Event Type:    Marriage
Marriage Date:    29 Nov 1851
Marriage Place:    Kilteely and Drumkeen, Limerick, Ireland
Diocese:    Cashel and Emly
Spouse:    Patrick O'Brien

Could this be Catherine Burke's marriage - the surname isn't clear on the original image.