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Re: 1891 and 1901 look up please - BIRKS LIVING IN bury
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 18:30 BST (UK) »
mary.e.birks is not with family in 1901
here is the reason
marr index
name; mary emma birks
y.o.r. 1898
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist; bury
vol; 8c
page; 764
on the same page; peter kirkman and jacob taylor
she marries peter kirkman
here they are in 1901
1901
RG13/3640/5/2
peter kirkman age 24. b. walshaw,lancs. occ. woodworker(joiner). head
mary emma kirkman age 24. b. radcliffe. occ. cotton ----?. wife
living at;27,bell lane,st.paul,bury,lancs
think this could well be the death of mary
death index
name; mary.e.kirkman
y.o.r. 1947
qtr; jan/feb/mar
dist; bury
vol;10b
page; 1065
age at death; 70
est birth year; 1877(this tallies with her age in 1891 census)
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1891 and 1901 look up please - BIRKS LIVING IN bury
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 18:36 BST (UK) »
and this is quite possibly the son sam aged 3 in 1891 census
death index
name; sam birks
y.o.r. 1973
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; bury
vol; 10b
page; 2060
birth date; 15th august 1887

sams birth index the birth was regd in jul/aug/sept 1887 so that fits perfectly with the death above
cattell,alcester
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Re: 1891 and 1901 look up please - BIRKS LIVING IN bury
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 18:45 BST (UK) »
seeing as sam was born and died in bury
think this could be his marriage
name; sam birks
y.o.r. 1914
qtr; jul/aug/sept
dist; bury
vol; 8c
page; 1034
spouse; susannah jackson

there is only 1 child that i can see from this marriage
birth index
name; elsie birks
y.o.r. 1917
qtr; jan/feb/mar
dist; bury
vol; 8c
page; 795

there is this death that could be her (if it is then she did not marry)
name; elsie birks
y.o.r. 1997
mnth; june
dist; bury
reg no; c50b
entry no; 140
birthdate; 3/12/1916(so the birth regd in jan qtr 1917 could be her)
age at death; 80
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1891 and 1901 look up please - BIRKS LIVING IN bury
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 18:51 BST (UK) »
a possible marriage for the daughter annie birks aged 6 in 1901
marr index
name; annie birks
y.o.r. 1920
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; bury
vol; 8c(wrongly transcribed as 8e)
page; 1547
spouse; william mason
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1891 and 1901 look up please - BIRKS LIVING IN bury
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 18:57 BST (UK) »
will leave it at that for now
will go backwards through the censuses with george and dorothy tomorrow(off to work shortly)
just one final bit of info
george birks married dorothy leach in july qtr 1876 in bury
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1891 and 1901 look up please - BIRKS LIVING IN bury
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 19:15 BST (UK) »
the son fred birks was born in 1892
there is this death that fits perfectly
death index
name; fred birks
y.o.r. 1967
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; manchester
vol; 10e
page; 284
age at death; 75
est birth year; 1892

taking a leap of faith there is a marriage in chorlton in jan/feb/mar qtr 1915 in chorlton between a florence makin and fred birks
there is a death in 1936 in manchester south of a florence birks aged 42 so born 1894

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=852988

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=516026

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Re: 1891 and 1901 look up please - BIRKS LIVING IN bury
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 11 May 11 17:12 BST (UK) »
the son fred birks was born in 1892
there is this death that fits perfectly
death index
name; fred birks
y.o.r. 1967
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; manchester
vol; 10e
page; 284
age at death; 75
est birth year; 1892

taking a leap of faith there is a marriage in chorlton in jan/feb/mar qtr 1915 in chorlton between a florence makin and fred birks
there is a death in 1936 in manchester south of a florence birks aged 42 so born 1894

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=852988

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=516026

Have pm these and grave photos
so we can ignore this marriage and death of fred
as willie bat has found that fred and harry birks in fact died during the 1st world war
will carry on going back with george and dorothy birks
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1891 and 1901 look up please - BIRKS LIVING IN bury
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 11 May 11 17:26 BST (UK) »
you already have george in 1901,1891,1881
he married as previously stated in 1876 to dorothy leach
probably him in 1871
1871 transcribed as berks(but looks like birks on actual image)
RG10/3955/120/14
john birks age 45. b. whitefield,lancaster. occ. agr.lab. head
emma age 48. b. whittenbury,cheshire. wife
george age 19. b. bury. occ. field labourer. son
thomas age 14. b. ditto. occ. mill labourer. son
joseph age 10. b. ditto. son
mary age 9. b. ditto. daughter
james age 6. b. ditto. son
fanny age 2. b. ditto. daughter
jonathan bracewell age 24. b. salford. occ. labourer. son in law
sarah.a.bracewell age 24. b. knutsford,cheshire. daughter
john.n.bracewell age 3weeks. b. bury. grandson
living at;carrfield,south bury,bury,lancs
reg.dist; bury
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1891 and 1901 look up please - BIRKS LIVING IN bury
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 11 May 11 17:38 BST (UK) »
it would appear that the mother emma dies between 1871-1881
because john birks is with a mary birks in 1881
1881
RG11/3862/93/2
john birks age 55. b. whitefield,lancs. occ. market garden labourer. head
mary age 51. b. bury. wife
mary emma age 19. b. bury. occ. cotton weaver. daughter
james age 16. b. ditto. son
fanny age 14. b. ditto. daughter
mary ellen entwistle age 28. b. mere,cheshire. occ. seamstress. boarder
bertram entwistle age 1. b. ditto. boarder
james entwistle age 6mnths. b. bury. boarder
living at carrfield,south bury,bury,lancs
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn