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Who is Elizabeth Lyall
« on: Thursday 19 May 11 00:20 BST (UK) »
I have just found Elizabeth Lyall on her grandfathers death certificate Scotlandpeople

I have just purchased the death certificate of William Duncan from Brechin  from Scotlandpeople and it is signed by Elizabeth Lyall granddaughter present
death 13.2.1882

 Williams daughter Jane Duncan married Charles Lyall 1859 but they did not have an daughter Elizabeth to my knowledge

Any help out there please

Elizabeth
McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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Re: Who is Elizabeth Lyall
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 May 11 01:20 BST (UK) »
Um, it makes sense that Elizabeth would be the daughter of Charles and Jane. How else could she be a grandaughter of William with the surname Lyall?  :-\

Have you traced the family through the censuses to see if there is an Elizabeth with them at any stage?

Have you checked all children born to Charles and Jane? Is there a gap where Elizabeth might fit in, but perhaps wasn't registered for some reason?

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Re: Who is Elizabeth Lyall
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 May 11 06:29 BST (UK) »
hi all  :)

how old was william duncan when he died ?
did he have a daughter mary duncan born 1836 ?
was william duncan's wife elspet seivwright ?
did mary duncan marry james lyall and have a daughter elizabeth lyall in 1858 ?
maybe.......... :-\

6 clerk street brechin angus 1881
mary lyall 45 widow born fettercairn kincardine
elizabeth lyall 22 daur. b. marykirk kincardine
mary lyall 20 daur. b. fettercairn kincardine
agnes lyall 17 daur. b. lunan angus
william duncan 84 father widower b. brechin angus

agnes elspit lyall born 5th oct. 1863 lunan angus
parents james lyall and mary duncan

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Re: Who is Elizabeth Lyall
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 May 11 07:49 BST (UK) »
That looks good ev.  :)

So William Duncan had daughters Jane and Mary ....
Jane married Charles Lyall and Mary married James Lyall? 
And Elizabeth is daur of Mary and James?

Have I got that right?  :)


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Re: Who is Elizabeth Lyall
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 May 11 08:34 BST (UK) »
yes  :)

or at least i hope so
otherwise it's start again time  ::)

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Re: Who is Elizabeth Lyall
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 May 11 09:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for your help
It looks like two sisters married two Lyall brothers
Now I need to see if Charles and James are brothers

Yes i have had a look at my Lyall tree
James b 15.1.1821 I have not got a wife for him so will have another look at scotlandspeople
I vowed not to spend any more money on this site
But here I go again  ;D ;D ;D
Elizabeth
McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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Re: Who is Elizabeth Lyall
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 May 11 09:49 BST (UK) »
hi all  :)

how old was william duncan when he died ?
did he have a daughter mary duncan born 1836 ?
was william duncan's wife elspet seivwright ?
did mary duncan marry james lyall and have a daughter elizabeth lyall in 1858 ?
maybe.......... :-\

6 clerk street brechin angus 1881
mary lyall 45 widow born fettercairn kincardine
elizabeth lyall 22 daur. b. marykirk kincardine
mary lyall 20 daur. b. fettercairn kincardine
agnes lyall 17 daur. b. lunan angus
william duncan 84 father widower b. brechin angus

agnes elspit lyall born 5th oct. 1863 lunan angus
parents james lyall and mary duncan

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William Duncan died at 6 Clerk Street this is on the death certificate he is a widower so he was living with his daughter  ,that's where Elizabeth comes in
his death age is also 84 .
We are getting there thanks again
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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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Re: Who is Elizabeth Lyall
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 May 11 14:01 BST (UK) »
That's a good result Elizabeth and all fitting together nicely!

SP credits are very good value for money, so go ahead and treat yourself.  ;D

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Re: Who is Elizabeth Lyall
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 May 11 16:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ruskie

This morning I got the birth of Elizabeth Lyall born 14.7.1858 I had a look in familysearch.org and its also there so I looked there for James and Mary's marriage it is also shown in familysearch so i got that marriage too from S P but James was a widower aged 32 his father is Robert Lyall and mother Helen Taylor ,....................and Mary is right  her father is William Duncan and Mother Elspeth Sievwright . As you say you get a lot from SP .I don't think I will bother with James first marriage .

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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth