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James Phelan marriage 1885?
« on: Monday 23 May 11 15:58 BST (UK) »
I am researching the life of James Leo Phelan (1895-1966) Writer / Actor / Broadcaster / Tramp. He was born in Dublin in 1895 and his parents were James Phelan (1850-1916) and Catherine (either Collins or O'Reilly) (1858-????). So I am looking for the wedding of James & Catherine which took place around 1885. James was from Tipperary, Catherine from Westmeath and they lived in Dublin from at least 1890 when their daughter Mary was born there. Any information welcome. Thanks. Jim Phelan

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Re: James Phelan marriage 1885?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 July 17 19:48 BST (UK) »
No wedding I'm afraid, but the Killenaule (Tipperary) Births Register has the following James, born 1850:-

No. 22
May 1850
James Phelan son of Patrick Phelan and Mary Fitzgerald

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Re: James Phelan marriage 1885?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 July 17 20:28 BST (UK) »
Wow! That was a long time coming but thanks for the information... any further leads, please let me know. Jim
Phelan, Sheehan, Ramsdale, Brittle, Ashworth, Watkins, Bergin, Daniels.

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Re: James Phelan marriage 1885?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 July 17 00:01 BST (UK) »
James Phelan and Catherine O'Reilly had a son Cornelius born in  7 Leitrim Place in 1900
baptism
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ked/
civil cert number 290 not yet given a name   father a spring maker
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01986/1764832.pdf

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_West/_/1288624/
dont know why whoever transcribed this return did'nt look at the building returns
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003699535/

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Re: James Phelan marriage 1885?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 July 17 15:51 BST (UK) »
Sorry to butt in here but I read these exchanges with interest although I have nothing new to contribute. However I am researching William James Phelan (born 1847/8)(my gt grandfather) who was a reporter with The Nation newspaper until his departure for Natal, South Africa in 1869 where he had a career as a successful and fiery Editor of various newspapers before his early death in 1886. I see similarities in the names (William/James), literary leanings and political activity and wonder if there is a family connection in the past which might be of help to me in tracing the parentage and place of birth of my gt grandfather in Ireland. Any suggestions would be most welcome.

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Re: James Phelan marriage 1885?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 July 17 16:38 BST (UK) »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Phelan_(Irish_writer)

Marriage 1 on Dec 07 1920 to Dora O'BRIEN b. Sep 19 1897 (links earlier)

Dora Mary PHELAN died Sep 26 1924 aged 27 LINK #40

Daughter Catherine Mary O'BRIEN born Oct 31 1922 Liverpool Lancs Q4 V8b P311

She married John Patrick SINGLETON;
they had six children according to an online tree
and she died Aug 1987 Nottingham V8 P1101 aged 64

Marriage 2 to Jill Constance HAYES (still looking c1937!)
The article from dathai's link and others, state that she died after the Blitz but I cannot find a death
There is a death of a Jill Constance PHELAN in 1987 Biggleswade, Bedfordshire Apr V9 P236 aged 71 at Fairfield Hospital, Stotfold, Beds. DoB given as Apr 14 1916.

Son Seumas b. Feb 04 1938 Hampstead Greater London 1938 Q1 V1a P842
He died in Australia on Nov 13 2016 LINK to death notice and LINK to obituary

Marriage 3 on 1944 to Kathleen NEWTON b. Nov 27 1917
Hampstead, Middlesex Q1 V1a P1138
She died Nov 26 2014 in Cirencester, Gloustershire LINK to reflection on Kaye PHELAN

noting that there is an email address for James Phelan's grandson in the comments on this piece
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder