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Re: MIs in DUNFERMLINE Lays Road Cemetery
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 23 June 11 19:59 BST (UK) »
I have several relations who died in Dunfermline and I was wondering if you might have pictures of their grave.
William Hetherton, d, 31 July 1840 and his wife Ann Hetherton, d. 14 July 1840
Robert Hetherington (same family, different spelling), d. 13 Sept 1852 and his wife Elizabeth Hetherington, d. 10 May 1868


Hi Cein  sorry nothing on William & Robert in my headstone index

From IGI is this the family?

William Hetherton, Mother: Ann Donald

FFH. Death  Cd William Hetherington Dunfermline Charleston
Died 31.7.1840 age 48 labourer
Buried in Common ground
Labourer Elgin Railway accidently killed 
Newspaper report  Fifeshire Journal 13 August 1840

FFH Cd  Ann Hetherton ( Donald ) Dunfermline Charleston
Died 14.7.1840 age 51
Wife of William Hetherton
Buried in common ground

Children 
1. RACHEL HETHERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 13 MAY 1823 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
 
 2. ANN HETHERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 20 JUL 1825 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
 
 3. ROBERT HETHERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 20 JUN 1821 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
 
  5. GRACE HETHERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 17 SEP 1819 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
 
FFH Cd  Grace Hetherton Dunfermline Merry hill
Died 15.8.1934 age 15
Daughter of William Hetherton
Buried in common ground

 6. JEAN HETHERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 NOV 1831 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
 
There is also these 2 inscriptions from Dunfermline Cemetery

580   Erected by Robert HEATHERINGTON in memory of his
   Children Thomas died 25.2.1871 age 6m
   John died 14.5.1874 age 3
   wife Jane GORDON died 27.1.1882 age 44
   above Robert HEATHERINGTON died  at Crossford
   23.11.1895 age 64
   wife Isabella ELDER died 22.2.1924 age 77

288   Mary HETHERINGTON died 14.3.1894 age 65
   husband Alexander THOMSON died 15.3.1933 ag98
   son David died 9.6.1904 age 17
   Daughter Elizabeth died 26.9.1941 age 61
   Jeanie sister of above Alexander THOMSON
   died 10.12.1911 age 62

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Gordon,Gillies, Taylor,Kinnear, Wemyss Parish

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Re: MIs in DUNFERMLINE Lays Road Cemetery
« Reply #19 on: Friday 24 June 11 03:45 BST (UK) »
Hello Norrie G,
Thank you so much for responding so promptly.  Yes, the family on IGI is mine.  Actually, by an eerie coincidence, Robert, my GGGrandfather, was also killed in a railway accident in 1852.

The 2 inscriptions in the cemetery are unknown to me but prompt me to do some research on them to see if they are connected.

I am most appreciative of your help on this.
All the best,
Cein
PS What does it mean to be buried in "Common Ground"?
Henley, Marsh, Camies: Sussex, England
Hetherington/Hetherton: Fife, Scotland
Jeffrey, Muirhead: Midlothian, Scotland
Arnot(t): Linlithgow, West Lothian
Gemmell: Aberdeen, Scotland
Masterson: Wexford, Ireland
Jeffrey, Weber: Ontario, British Columbia
Green, Livens, Bell, McDonald: Ontario

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Re: MIs in DUNFERMLINE Lays Road Cemetery
« Reply #20 on: Friday 24 June 11 23:17 BST (UK) »
Actually, by an eerie coincidence, Robert, my GGGrandfather, was also killed in a railway accident in 1852.

Hi Cein had some time to do a lookup in the local paper for that time
this is the report fromthe Newspaper

Fifeshire   Journal    16th september.1852
Dunfermline News   Fatal Railway Accident

On Monday night an accident occurred on the Elgin Railway, in
Consequence of which the fireman of the engine lost his life under
The following distressing circumstances: - between nine and ten o’clock
The unfortunate man, along with the engine driver was proceeding up
The line from Charleston with a train of empty wagons, and had proceeded
 as far as far as Gallowridge – Hill, a place about three quarters of a mile
to the south of Dunfermline, when the foremost axle of the truck, used as a
tender ( and which is always before the engine when coming up the line,
there being no turntable for turning the engine), broke and the other end
coming in contact with the engine, caused such a shock as to precipitated
the poor man on to the rails, right before the engine, which came over his
legs, and rested its whole weight upon the breast of the deceased, the result
of which was that death was almost instantaneous. The engine-driver on
seeing what had happened, ran up to the town for help ( no nearer aid being
procurable ), on returning with sufficient force extricated the remains of the
unfortunate man from below the wheels of the engine. The deceased has left
a wife and a young family to lament his untimely fate.

Also William Hetherton

Fifeshire  Journal 13th Aug 1841
Dunfermline News     Railway Accident
A few days ago, a man of the name of Hetherton a labourer on
Lord Elgins railway, met with a sudden death.
The railway runs along a deep artifical cut, which has on each side
A high built wall of defence. The unfortunate man, it is thought, had
ether fallen asleep on the verge of the cut, and so tumbled over, or
fallen over the wall accidently into the railway, and the next train of
wagons passed over his body and crushed him instantly to death---
the wagon driver not having perceived him.

What does it mean to be buried in "Common Ground"?

If the family were poor and could not afford to purchase ground for burial,
there was an area set aside in the cemetery called common ground,
This would mean that members of the family who died at various times were not buried in the same grave.
Headstones were not allowed to be erected in this area.

NorrieG
Gordon,Gillies, Taylor,Kinnear, Wemyss Parish

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Re: MIs in DUNFERMLINE Lays Road Cemetery
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 25 June 11 10:07 BST (UK) »
Some excellent work you are doing here NorrieG.   :)
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman


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Re: MIs in DUNFERMLINE Lays Road Cemetery
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 25 June 11 17:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Norrie G,
I responded yesterday but i must have done something wrong because it is not showing here.  However, as I said, I thank you for taking the time to locate these articles.  They are wonderful to have but tragic.  William died 2 weeks after his wife's death and I wonder if he may have been despondent over that when he fell onto the tracks.
Thanks also for explaining common ground burials.
All the best,
Cein
Henley, Marsh, Camies: Sussex, England
Hetherington/Hetherton: Fife, Scotland
Jeffrey, Muirhead: Midlothian, Scotland
Arnot(t): Linlithgow, West Lothian
Gemmell: Aberdeen, Scotland
Masterson: Wexford, Ireland
Jeffrey, Weber: Ontario, British Columbia
Green, Livens, Bell, McDonald: Ontario

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Re: MIs in DUNFERMLINE Lays Road Cemetery
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 25 June 11 17:17 BST (UK) »
Could  you look and see if you have
John Dick d 26.4.1837 and his wife Helen McCulloch d 19.12.1891

also

John Dick d 3.7.1870 and his wife Janet Bogie d 19.6.1892

Could you tell if there is anyway I can find out what common ground somebody was buried in.

Thanks.

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Re: MIs in DUNFERMLINE Lays Road Cemetery
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 26 June 11 21:00 BST (UK) »
Could  you look and see if you have
John Dick d 26.4.1837 and his wife Helen McCulloch d 19.12.1891
also John Dick d 3.7.1870 and his wife Janet Bogie d 19.6.1892


Hi French  sorry nothing on index for above.

You have John died 1837 do you know where about he died

The IGI gives the Dick Family from the Markinch area
Do you know if they stayed there or moved.
If you can tell me who the chidren married it might help.

Father: John Dick, Mother: Janet Bogie
This is them in
1841 Census: Markinch -Fife Enumeration District: 11
Civil Parish: Markinch Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Thornton
Address: Thornton

    Surname   First name(s)   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   Remarks   
    DICK   John   M   25   Coal Miner    Fife       
    DICK   Janet   F   25       Fife       
    DICK   Ann   F   1       Fife       
    KINNELL   George   M   23   Ag. Labourer    Fife       
    KINNELL   Jean   F   19       Fife       
    KINNELL   David   M   11m       Fife

Also who did their children marry and did the stay in the area?

This is one of the children in the 1881 census
5. JAMES DICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 11 FEB 1850 Markinch, Fife, Scotland

Dwelling:   Balbeggie Miners Row
   Census Place:   Dysart, Fife, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203522     GRO Ref    Volume 426    EnumDist 15    Page 1
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
James DICK   M   31    M   Par Of Markinch, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Coal Miner
Rachel DICK   M   34    F   Par Of Markinch, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Wife ( Childe )
John DICK       8    M   Par Of Markinch, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
James DICK       4    M   Par Of Markinch, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
Janet DICK       2    F   Par Of Markinch, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
David DICK       11 m   M   Par Of Markinch, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
 
Could you tell if there is anyway I can find out what common ground somebody was buried in.
In Each cemetery when it was opened an area was set aside to bury persons
who had no money to buy a lair in the cemetery, no Headstones were allowed to be erected on it. What cemetery are you asking about.

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Re: MIs in DUNFERMLINE Lays Road Cemetery
« Reply #25 on: Monday 27 June 11 11:23 BST (UK) »
I am unsure of burial ground just wondered if it might have been one you have lists for. Thanks for the rest will look into this and when I have something I will get back to you.

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Re: MIs in DUNFERMLINE Lays Road Cemetery
« Reply #26 on: Monday 27 June 11 17:51 BST (UK) »
hi Norrie,could you please have look to see if there is a grave for this couple.
Archibald Mitchell died December 1914 and his wife Margaret Jamieson died 1915.Archibald died at Limekilns which i believe is nearby but i have no idea where they might be buried otherwise.

Steve
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Durham/Northumberland-Mellanby
Cornwall-Chenhall,Bodinner
Fife-Mitchell,Gourlay,Dryburgh

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