1891 and 1901 census lookup please

[keyboard86]

Same thing for them 1881 to 1891 as Joseph/Margaret?

No ignore above as cannot see one for Margaret that fits, Joseph is possibly 1889 aged 0
Just realised Margaret is the Maggie aged 8 that is posted re the 1891 census above by cjo !!
Keyboard86

[telephonist]

thanks for possible Joseph, but that Margaret is another family!! with parents John and Kate not my Catherine.

[keyboard86]

Kate is a pet name for a lady called Catherine/Katherine!!, check the ages of John and Kate with the 1881 census, and they also have a George W aged 11 which ties in with the 1881 census?

Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Gateshead I think
Margarita born 1882
Joseph 1888
Sara 1890

I found these names while browsing on family search and unsure if they the family i am looking for or not.
John and Catherine born about 1857 and 1858

And also this post from yourself!
Keyboard86

[telephonist]

I note now there are two combinations of John Hall and Catherine the family i am linked to were living at 44 Town Street Gateshead Durham in the 1881 census and at that time had two children George W and Mary Taresa.
The Town Street couple were the family that came to NZ with 4 children, Minnie,Margaret,Willie and John.

The other family was living at 38 Blagdon Street.

Thanks for your help.

[liz49]

Hi Im new to this but I have been researching the halls Gateshead for my own tree and Thomas is my link brother to John
Any infor on their mother Mary Ann would be so useful.

I can not locate her on the 1881 or 1891 census
Liz49

[Hilbos]

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Please can i have a census check 1891 and 1901 for a John and Catherine Hall (nee McNally) with these children Josephus, Sara Ann and Margarita.

Can't place this family on 1891/1901c   

Where do you get the names of these children from? Do you have a birth
cetificate of one of the children that gives their mother's maiden name as McNALLY

FreeBMD has the marriage entry
1879 Newcastle T
John HALL
Catherine McNALLY
there is a postem added 18/06/2006
asking to make contact if you are related to either person

This is the nearest couple I can see on 1881 census, they have a 10month old son Robert

1881 census 38 Blagdon St N on T
John HALL 1857 Moulder Iron
Catherine 1861
Robert son 1880 (10 mths)
All born Newcastle

by 1891 John is widowed

16 Bedford Place All Saints Newcastle On Tyne
John HALL widower 1861 Iron Moulder
Robert son 1880
Elizabeth 1882
William 1884
Mary A 1886
All born Newcastle on Tyne

There's this death entry
Newcastle 1890
Catherine HALL age 31 (1859) - perhaps she died while giving birth to Annie

1901c 5, Johnsons Entry, All Saints
John HALL Head Widower 1857 Metal Moulder
Lizzie dau 1882
William son 1885 Chain Horse Driver
Mary A 1887
Annie dau 1889
William CAWTHORN son in law 1884 Labourer Quay
All born Newcastle

If you don't have a b/c it may be worth obtaining one of the children closest to the census date that you have mentioned at least this would give you an address, fathers occupation
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This family, John and Catherine are my great grandparents, their son William is my grandfather. I have his birth certificate and Catherine's maiden name was Tiernan.
I would dearly love to find out more about Catherine, she had Irish roots, and she  died when Annie was 3 months old and we know nothing about her. Any info or help would most welcome. Thanks

[keyboard86]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat, is Catherine Tiernan aged 13, the one with parents Patrick 58 and Elizabeth 50 both born Ireland plus siblings at Bedford Place, Newcastle-upon-Tyne 1871?
Census ref RG10/5100/58/37
Keyboard86

[Ladyhawk]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat, is Catherine Tiernan aged 13, the one with parents Patrick 58 and Elizabeth 50 both born Ireland plus siblings at Bedford Place, Newcastle-upon-Tyne 1871?
Census ref RG10/5100/58/37

Hello & a warm welcome from me too 

Marriage entry for Catherine surname spelling different - obtaining this would confirm her father's name and give his occupation

Catherine Tearnen
Male name on same page
John Hall
Jun 1880 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland
Volume:   10b Page:   149

1871c given by keyboard86 - she has a brother named Thomas born c 1862
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V51V-XQ3

I wonder if this might be Thomas' baptism

Thomas Tiernan 14 Feb 1864 St. Andrew's, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father:   Patricii Tiernan  Mother:   Elizabethae Prior

Deaths
Jun 1880 Newcastle T.   10b   69
Tiernan   Patrick   Age 57 (1823)

1891c RG12; Piece: 4210; Folio: 73; Page: 54
address No. 8 Bedford Pl
Elizabeth TIERNAN Head Wid. 64
Bernard 45 
John 28
Thomas 16
ALL pob given as Newcastle Upon Tyne

Can't find the above family on the 1881 census 

ADDED

Also can't find the above family on 1901 census 

There are these death entries BUT not sure if  they relate to the same Tiernan family as their ages vary

Jun 1892 Newcastle T. vol 10b page 68
Tiernan Thomas age 25 (1867)

Mar 1894 Newcastle T. 10b 76
Tiernan Bernard age 36 (1858)

Mar 1894 Newcastle T. 10b 64
Tiernan Elizabeth age 62 (1832)

Mar 1896 Newcastle T.10b 78
Tiernan John age 30 (1866)