4 Cornish pubs

[wilcoxon]

Are you after details of the pubs themselves , or the occupants.
I have found mention of the Star Marazion in 18th c
No names of occupants though !

BANKRUPTS
Public Advertiser (London, England), Monday, October 31, 1763
William Pye of Famouth to surrender at the Star in Marazion in Cornwall.

London Chronicle (London, England), August 26, 1788
Hugh Edwards of St Ives merchant to surrender at the Star in Marazion in Cornwall.

[Trees]

So it was a  really old house
I have found several Houses remain in a family, the landlord passing from father to son or nephew or brothers often the widow continued running a house and even one has been taken over by a daughter and so on often looking at previous Inn keepers can reveal more family connections. In the case of the Star however I have only found John Semmens being there between 1851 and 1852 he then moved on to the Britannia in Breage.
I try to write a little about each of the houses where I find people on the branches of the tree. Inns were often the center of a community being the main meeting place in a village or hamlet here the village would gather for feasts and wakes they have been used as courts and even the office of the registrar. Information found in news items and so on can add interest to the community the ancestors lived in You can see the sort of treatment I give them on my web site under occupations Publicans just click the link at the bottom of my posts . These latest finds put me up to 100 houses and many more land lords

At the moment I am desperate to find which pub was in Fore Street Marazion kept by William Semmen in 1841 and did he continue to keep it as a pub. He seems to be at the same address in 1851 but then he is a butcher and he isn't in the Historical directories on that site I wonder was he in any of the directories covered by An...ry?
William, Henry and John SEMMENS(various spelling of the surname) were brothers and James POOLEY one of their brother in laws The brothers were initially butchers
I have several butcher/publicans and grocer/publicans and shoe maker/publicans as well as the expected brewers and maltsters and farmers.There are a hand full of Blacksmiths, a sawyer and a gun smith and surprisingly a policeofficer/publican I think the farmers were often in old coaching inns where the land had been used to put the horses out others were growing barley or hops for the trade. It is a very interesting study well recommended but it looks better when I can find the actual house and add a picture to the little sketchy write ups
Trees
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[Trees]

4 have become 5 now as William Harvey was keeping a pub in Fraddam,Gwinear in 1851 does any one have any idea of what it could have been called? Where exactly was Fraddam?
William Harvey was the father of Edward Harvey who married Mary Semmons the daughter of Henry Semmens who kept The Cornish Mount
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[osprey]

http://www.cornwallinfocus.co.uk/villages/fraddam.php

http://www.nestoria.co.uk/fraddam/property/buy

[Trees]

Cheers osprey so not that far from Crowan which seems to be the many place this family group were from.
Its to small for my map so is there still a pub there Goo...gling doesn't help nor historical directories for this mystery pub/inn/tavern.aleh house etc.
Trees

[osprey]

could be he was serving beer in his front room?


 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_house#Beer_Houses_and_the_1830_Beer_Act

[Trees]

More than likely there is no mother mention than the 1851 census but it calls him an Inn keeper and farmer of 30 acres which sounds a bit more formal
Often my farmer /innkeepers were growing barley and had a malt house on the farm or a brew house and made their own beer supposedly for family and farm labourers use often if it was a good brew they sold it in the parlour for a little extra cash and if it was very good that business took precedence over the farm . But I know this landlord mover before the 1861 census to a farm in Crowan and there is no further mention of inn keeping. Umm maybe I should check the 1861 census for Fraddam and see if anyone else is an inn keeper
Many thanks for the links
Trees

[Trees]

Bingo ...I  think
Its the HALF WAY House Fraddam will need to check with the lincence but it looks good in 1861 there is a Chap keeping it who was in Penzance in 1851
What do the locals think  am I right?

[osprey]

I'm not local, but he's certainly the man I found in 1861 as well. There's also a Fanny Noell aged 55 who the widow of an innkeeper. Had to go back to the 1841 to find husband Richard.

Did you notice the number of women enumerated as miner's wife, husband in America or husband in Australia?