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Missing person - Albert Leonard New
« on: Saturday 25 June 11 07:50 BST (UK) »
Hi,
We are trying to find what happened to Albert Leonard New b. 24.12.1883 after 1911, when he was living at Newbury, England aged 28 years, a Painter.   He was living with his Uncle & Aunt, John & Fanny New, at that time, but a few days later after the census was taken, John & Fanny migrated to Australia.    Albert was married to Fanny Elizabeth Townsend Wheeler in 1904, had a son Roy Leslie Townsend New born 1906.   By 1911 census, his son is not with his father.No more is known what happened to Albert Leonard New after 1911.

In fact so far cannot find where his wife was living as well, but we do know that she died in 1914 in Newbury.

Wonder if anyone could assist me to see if there are any shipping records for his possible migration to Australia, or even Canada, as later on, his son was sent there as a Home Child in 1920.

We just cannot find his death anywhere in England, just disappeared off the face of the earth.

janjim

New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Missing person - Albert Leonard New
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 June 11 09:05 BST (UK) »
Hi...Sorry I cant help you with possible shipping/passenger list to Oz, but here are
some burials you may not have.

Mike.



6 Dec 1835 Albert New inf Dorset Shaftesbury, Holy Trinity
14 Jan 1883  Albert New 33 Dorset Upwey, St Lawrence
16 Dec 1885   Albert New 1 Berkshire Hungerford, St Lawrence
15 Apr 1905   Albert Leonard Townsend New age 1m Berkshire Newbury, Newtown Rd Cemetery
31 Mar 1870 Albert William New age 1 Dorset Mappowder, St Peter & St Paul
2 Jan 1908 Reginald Albert New 25 Dorset Upwey, St Lawrence
Townson - Cartmel O'Malley - Askeaton, Ireland
Sadler - Dymock & Salford Tomlinson - St Peters, Leeds
Wilkinson - Salford Chant - Sherbourne, Dorset
Garner - Pendleton

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Re: Missing person - Albert Leonard New
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 June 11 09:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Well, thanks for this saddles, Albert Leonard New was definitely alive in 1911, so we can count all of these people out, but certainly Albert Leonard Townsend New was his son, died as a baby

jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Missing person - Albert Leonard New
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 November 13 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Just saw this thread [from a link to a new NEW thread]

Have you obtained Fanny's death certificate to see who the informant was? This might tell you if Albert Leonard was around if not already dead himself or serving in WW1.

Fanny E T New
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1876
Date of Registration:   Oct-Nov-Dec 1914
Age at Death:   38
Registration District:   Wallingford
Inferred County:   Berkshire
Volume:   2c
Page:   429

Josey
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Missing person - Albert Leonard New
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 December 13 19:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I found this burial for Fanny,


Fanny Elizabeth Townsend NEW
30 Dec 1914
Church Name:  County Lunatic Asylum
Cholsey, Berkshire
Age:38
Address:  Berks County Asylum


In 1911 try F A J NEW if looking on Ancestry or just F NEW ( comes up as F A T NEW) if looking on findmypast I think this could be her.


Regards,
Daisy
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Re: Missing person - Albert Leonard New
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 December 13 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Well found, Daisy.

I wonder if the records for the son Roy's emigration to Canada in 1920 as a home child mention his father at all? It is possible to obtain the records, I understand.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Missing person - Albert Leonard New
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 December 13 07:18 GMT (UK) »
Another good find! Worth following up. Also worth looking for Roy on the 1921 Canada census & bmds. If his descendants can be located & identified, they might have been told something about Arthur.

ADDED: In 1921 Roy is lodging with a Holder family on Dumfries South, Ontario address 'lot 10 con 3'; farm labourer aged 15.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Missing person - Albert Leonard New
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 October 14 18:22 BST (UK) »
related thread, as Roy went back to England & married there: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=540642.0
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