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James Wainwright - father of 15 children 1700's ?
« on: Sunday 26 June 11 15:47 BST (UK) »
On my gr-grandfathers jottings of the family tree, right at the very top he has "James Wainwright, last of the wain wrights" and a note that he had 15 children.

We have traced the family with certainty to Thomas bn approx 1726 who married in Darfield in 1755

according to the tree, Thomas would be one of the 15 children of James, but i suspect he might be the son of Zacharias of Royston

Has anyone come across a James Wainwright who fathered 15 children (including a Thomas and a William)  in the Royston / Darfield / Tankersley areas?
Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all

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Re: James Wainwright - father of 15 children 1700's ?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 June 11 23:58 BST (UK) »
If they all had the same mother, she needs a medal. :o

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Re: James Wainwright - father of 15 children 1700's ?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 June 11 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have just checked a transcription of baptisms at Royston and there are 2 Thomas' baptised in the period you are researching:

6 Jan 1727 Thomas son of Zacharius from Carleton
19 Jan 1729 Thomas son of Thomas from Carleton

Could find no children baptised with a Father named as James.

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Re: James Wainwright - father of 15 children 1700's ?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 June 11 14:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have just checked a transcription of baptisms at Royston and there are 2 Thomas' baptised in the period you are researching:

6 Jan 1727 Thomas son of Zacharius from Carleton
19 Jan 1729 Thomas son of Thomas from Carleton

Could find no children baptised with a Father named as James.

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It the name a Zach appears in one of James 15 kids. ' Wills ' of Dads Zacharius or Thomas sr! maybe
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Re: James Wainwright - father of 15 children 1700's ?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 June 11 14:49 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure of exactly where the family came from before my Thomas married Anne Taylor in Darfield in 1755. They later moved to Piley and they were buried at Tankersley.

The notes i have suggest that he is one of 15 children of a James

I suspect he had a brother William 

checking various on-line sites gave Zacharias of Royston as the father of a Thomas & a William with the correct birthdates, hence my suspicion (and so far no more than that) that they are connected. Zacharias certainly isnt a name that has been passed down -- plenty of Thomases, Johns, Williams tho

So far i havent been able to track down a will of any of them to confirm/reject my suspcions

So i am on the look out for a James, a wagon-builder, with 15 children somewhere in the area
Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all

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Re: James Wainwright - father of 15 children 1700's ?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 June 11 16:32 BST (UK) »
The 1672 Hearth Tax for Darfield has a Mr Wainwright paying for 9 hearths, obviously a very wealthy man. Have you tried investigating him as a relative of your James?
I have a burial for a Mr Robert Wainwright of Darfield, 11 Sep 1683 so perhaps he was the one mentioned above. Unfortunately I do not have any Darfield baptisms after 1684.

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Re: James Wainwright - father of 15 children 1700's ?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 June 11 17:16 BST (UK) »
sounds like something to follow up

Theres a marr in Royston of Mr Robert Wainwright of Middlewood Hall in the parish of Darfield to (i think) Jane Ashton of Monks Bretton on July 10 1675 who is possibly the same one. Middlewood Hall sounds like it might be big enough to have 9 taxable hearths.
Just need to find the "missing link"

The Darfield registers dont seem to be included in the West Yorkshire collection on Ancestry :(
Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all

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Re: James Wainwright - father of 15 children 1700's ?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 June 11 20:19 BST (UK) »
CM/972 1744


These documents are held at Sheffield Archives

Contents:
Thomas Wainwright, pltff. v. John Green and Lydia his wife, deforcs. 8 messuages, 4 cottages, 2 shops, 4 gardens, 4 orchards, 200 acres of land, 200 acres of meadow, 200 acres pasture, 10 acres of wood etc. in Thurlstone, Langsett, Midhop and Ecclesfield for 600. In 15 days from St. Martin.
Former reference: B7 b31.

 CM/971 1 Oct 1744


These documents are held at Sheffield Archives

Contents:
John Green of Smallshaw and Lydia his wife (sister and heir of Emer Rich of Smallshaw), Thomas Wainwright of Royston, George Walker the younger of Hunshelf and Nicholas Stead of Dongworth agree that the fine to be levied of the messuage in Thurlstone called Smallshaw farm, several messuages in Langsett and a messuage at High Green in Ecclesfield shall be to stated uses.
Former reference: B7 b31.
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Re: James Wainwright - father of 15 children 1700's ?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 June 11 20:34 BST (UK) »

HIGHAM HILL IS NORTH WEST OF BARNSLEY & ROYSTONE





D37 M/T1058 1764


These documents are held at Derbyshire Record Office

Contents:
Cottages on Ainmoor:
Articles of agreement made between Sarah Wainwright of Higham Hill widow, and relict of James Wainwright, and Samuel Wainwright of the same place, her son, for the sale of the real and personal estate of James, in consideration of Samuel paying his mother 1s 6d weekly for life, and also discharging the expenses of her funeral. Dated 15 May


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In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth