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Re: Groom,Rathbone,Tollner and Rose family of Natal
« Reply #18 on: Friday 11 March 16 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi

On Family Search

Claud Albert Groom marriage 8 May 1912 to Wilhelmina Tollner

There is an image attached just click on the image next to the entry.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDC5-3FR
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Re: Groom,Rathbone,Tollner and Rose family of Natal
« Reply #19 on: Friday 11 March 16 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Wonder if this is Claud's son given the spelling of the name born 1913 marriage 1940

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDZ9-97P

Image attached to entry as well
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: Groom,Rathbone,Tollner and Rose family of Natal
« Reply #20 on: Friday 11 March 16 11:08 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if you have a copy of William Percival's marriage but if not it's here:


https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDZ9-97P
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: Groom,Rathbone,Tollner and Rose family of Natal
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 12 March 16 08:41 GMT (UK) »
Constance Harriett Rathbone:

There is a marriage entry on Family Search giving estimated date of birth to be 1895

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCR-NQX

Ethel Winnifred Rathbone

Marriage with estimated date of birth to be 1897

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCT-C5V

Mabel Josephine Rathbone estimated year of birth 1918

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCG-YKM
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)


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Re: Groom,Rathbone,Tollner and Rose family of Natal
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 02 July 17 13:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Phil I found this which might be the marriage of WH Miller in 1919 which would make his birth date 1872 and Jim would have been born in 1868. Sounds about right. Click on the link https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11596-169994-95?cc=2063749&wc=M9WM-PR1:n1689800448 and here is some more info.

William Henry Miller b 1872 was married firstly to Catherine Causier in England and then absconded to join the Army and eventually settling in South Africa. Not sure if he got divorced from his first wife? He died in 1947 aged 75. As can be seen above in the link he then married Wilhelmina Hansina Mathilda Anderson born 1891.


DEPOT     NAB  SOURCE    MSCE  TYPE      LEER   VOLUME_NO 00                                                                   
SYSTEM    01   REFERENCE 2443/1947   PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          MILLER, WILLIAM HENRY. S/SP MILLER, WILHELMINA  HANSINA MATHILDA.  STARTING  19470000                                                             
ENDING    19480000.

Here is the estate of William Henry Miller https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS7R-V3MN-B?i=2072&cat=229462

DEPOT     NAB  SOURCE    MSCE  TYPE      LEER  SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 101/1969    PART      1 DESCRIPTION          MILLER, WILLIAM HENRY. BORN IN LADYSMITH, NATAL. S SP MILLER,         
MILDRED BEATRICE SUSAN. DECEASED ESTATE. STARTING  19690000                                                             
ENDING    19690000.

DEPOT     NAB   SOURCE    MSCE  TYPE      LEER   SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 1353/1969    PART      1   DESCRIPTION          MILLER, MILDRED BEATRICE SUSAN. (BORN CRICKMORE). BORN IN DURBAN,     
NATAL. PRSP MILLER, WILLIAM HENRY. ESTATE NO. 101/1969. DECEASED     ESTATE.   STARTING  19690000  ENDING    19700000.

It is a shame I never found this info before as I was in Natal and could have gone to the archives to look up these notices.

I found the memorial plaque for WH Miller and his wife Mildred located at Stellawood cemetery in Durban.

Regards Derek
Austin, Ayling, Alborough, Bescoby, Cheal, Groom,Rathbone,Tarboton,Lyell and Smith.

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Re: Groom,Rathbone,Tollner and Rose family of Natal
« Reply #23 on: Monday 03 July 17 08:17 BST (UK) »
Leon James Groom b. Boughton Kent 1884 died 30/11/1945 in Bulawayo Rhodesia.
Austin, Ayling, Alborough, Bescoby, Cheal, Groom,Rathbone,Tarboton,Lyell and Smith.

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Re: Groom,Rathbone,Tollner and Rose family of Natal
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 23 July 17 16:54 BST (UK) »
Hi There is still Groom family living in Mtunzini  Zululand and I knew a Don Percival at Tugela Mouth long gone though but there is a relative also Percival in Empangeni Zululand.
Also the Estate files for Natal on Family Search are available up to 1950.
Hope this is maybe of interest to you. Regards Pat

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Re: Groom,Rathbone,Tollner and Rose family of Natal
« Reply #25 on: Monday 24 July 17 13:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Pat thank you how can I get in touch with the Groom family in Mtunzini? I have most of the estate files except Henry Edward Grooms file which seems to have gone missing. My grandfather was William Percival Austin who married a Groom. Regards Derek
Austin, Ayling, Alborough, Bescoby, Cheal, Groom,Rathbone,Tarboton,Lyell and Smith.

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Re: Groom,Rathbone,Tollner and Rose family of Natal
« Reply #26 on: Monday 24 July 17 17:05 BST (UK) »
 G. Groom 035 340 1238
 G. R. Groom 035 340 1103
Derek hope this helps you regards Pat.