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Re: OWEN and Jackson family Newcastle area late 1800's
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 16 July 11 03:32 BST (UK) »
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14770700?searchTerm="george phillip owen"&searchLimits=

Here are some details surrounding GEORGE's divorce.

Her remarriage to co-respondent

REG 11449 IN 1906  BULL  ARTHUR J
To   OWEN  MARCELLA
At  WICKHAM 

She died

Reg.14021 In 1950  BULL  MARCELLA JESSIE
  Father FRANCIS JAMES
  Mother MARY ANN
  At MAYFIELD     

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Re: OWEN and Jackson family Newcastle area late 1800's
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 16 July 11 03:42 BST (UK) »
These I think are the deaths of the two boys of whom she was given custody in the divorce.

REG 34982 IN 1966  OWEN  REGINALD GRANVILLE
  Father GEORGE
  Mother MARCELLA
  At BELMONT


Reg. 82130 In 1971    OWEN    CECIL ARLINGTON
Father GEORGE
Mother MARCELLA JESSIE
 At NEWCASTLE


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Re: OWEN and Jackson family Newcastle area late 1800's
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 16 July 11 03:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Chrissie,

Would this be the Seaman named David Owen that you mention?
From the Sydney Morning Herald of 14 Feb 1867
David Owen, a seaman of the steamer Grafton, convicted of desertion, was sentenced to fourteen days' in gaol.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13140993

If so, then perhaps this may be of interest re that desertion (from earlier paragraph in that article)
Joseph Creer, master of the steamer Grafton, was sued by Frederick Furney, a seaman of the vessel, for a balance of wages to the amount of £5 3s. Defendant claimed a set- off to the amount £2 12s. 2d. for the loss of a bag of sugar through the carelessness of complainant, and this deduction being allowed by the Bench, they ordered payment of the
residue, £2 10s.


I have not checked if the steamer Grafton was engaged in a coastal trading only, but there's the master's name for you to follow up.   :D

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Re: OWEN and Jackson family Newcastle area late 1800's
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 16 July 11 05:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue & JM,

Many thanks once again.  Interesting about the divorce.  The family never spoke of George or his children, maybe because of the divorce and maybe Marcella had custody of them, so they never mixed with the others.

I will have to see if the children of George had children, I still have an Uncle aged 92 who can tell me somethings, he didn't mention the divorce though!

I don't think that Seaman would be him.  David would have only been 8 at that date.

Cheers Chrissie.  :) :)


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Re: OWEN and Jackson family Newcastle area late 1800's
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 16 July 11 06:06 BST (UK) »
From the link that Sue gave re the divorce mentioned in the newspapers

"petitioner was granted the custody of the two children"   George was the petitioner, not Marcella, so she did not have the custody of those two children.   NSW BDM online index for births has 100 year closure, so at present there's only two children showing for Marcella's subsequent marriage to Arthur John Bull.

Cheers,  JM

Hi Sue & JM,

 ....The family never spoke of George or his children, maybe because of the divorce and maybe Marcella had custody of them,
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Re: OWEN and Jackson family Newcastle area late 1800's
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 16 July 11 06:12 BST (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0eab/

Here is a death notice for George published in 1947.  It lists his children and grandchildren. Seemingly only those with ALICE.



This is the only marriage I can see to fit the couple. She is indexed under 2 names.  A second time for her perhaps.


REG  13972 In 1936    OWEN    GEORGE
    To GRAY ALICE MAUD
   At BANKSTOWN

    
REG 13972 In 1936    OWEN    GEORGE
    To MILLS ALICE MAUD
    At BANKSTOWN

   
This may  be an earlier birth and infant death for the couple.

Reg  27120 In 1910    OWEN NORMAN H
    Father GEORGE P
    Mother  ALICE M
   HAMILTON
  
Reg 13679 In 1910    OWEN NORMAN H
   Father GEORGE P
    Mother ALICE M
    HAMILTON



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Here is a  death notice for ALICE  which lists her children. They  are the same names as those listed for GEORGE (as father) in his death notice.

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Thank you for correcting that JM.  George had the 2 boys, not Marcella.
  

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Re: OWEN and Jackson family Newcastle area late 1800's
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 16 July 11 06:24 BST (UK) »
Re George

He sought sequestration in 1909

George Philip Owen, of Waratah Road Broadmeadow, and formerly of Hannell-street, Smedmore, Wickham, formerly a miner, and now a journeyman butcher.

SMH 18 December 1909
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15085674

 
Perhaps that may be a more likely reason for his lose of contact with his siblings ...

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Re: OWEN and Jackson family Newcastle area late 1800's
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 16 July 11 06:29 BST (UK) »
I haven't followed up on the following

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5630231 The Advertiser (Sth Australian newspaper of 29 September 1919) but it carries a report from Sydney about a very serious crime in Newcastle and the arrest of a George Owen. 

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Re: OWEN and Jackson family Newcastle area late 1800's
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 16 July 11 06:31 BST (UK) »
A couple of interesting birth rgistrations which may be ALICE MAUD's




REG 650 In 1879    GRAY ALICE MAUD
    MOTHER SARAH ANN
   SYDNEY  


REG 22904 In 1880    MILLS  ALICE MAUD
   FATHER WILLIAM HENRY
    MOTHER SARAH ANN
    PORT STEPHENS



Her death

REG 21608 In 1951    OWEN ALICE MAUD
    Mother SARAH
    BANKSTOWN



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