Elizabeth & Thomas PINNINGTON

[Anne Wilson]

Help Please!
Have hit a brick wall in trying to find the marriage of Thomas PINNINGTON & Elizabeth (nee STRINGFELLOW), & also death of Elizabeth.
Have the birth/christening details of all their children from 1811 to 1829, all born Liverpool, and the deaths of Thomas & his mother Ellen, both in 1830, Liverpool.
Thomas was born 1790 & Elizabeth 1792, both once again in Liverpool.
Have searched the LDS & OPC sites but to no avail. 
There is one possible death for Elizabeth in 1835 at St Thomas, Melling....correct age, but don't know how to confirm this. Have searched for a newsaper death notice but once again, no luck. This death fits in with oral family history about Henry Crowther (the youngest child) who came out to Australia aged 11(as an orphan ) in 1838, aboard the Canton.
Because this family was reasonably prominent, Thomas was an Auctioneer/Appraiser, I would have thought that after his death, Elizabeth would have been able to take care of herself & the children, had she not died early. Hence the orphan angle??
Any help/advice always appreciated.
Annie

[keyboard86]

Hi Annie, the IGI Pilot search states the marriage was:-

Thomas Pinnington to Elizabeth Stringfellow 16th September 1810 St Anne's Liverpool.

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[Anne Wilson]

Thank you SO much for that..........I can't believe I missed it.
Must need new glasses
Now to find some confirmation re Elizabeth's death. Other than newspaper reports, has anyone got any ideas?
Cheers
Annie

[garstonite]

Hiya Annie...have you considered that Elizabeth may have married again ?...she had her last child at aged 37...
how many children did she have
I can only see one possible...unfortunately , the record doesn`t state whether Spinster or Widow

7th August 1836 at St Patricks,Liverpool
Robert McCann to Elizabeth Pennington
witnesses Edmund Bond and Sarah Bond
does Bond spring to mind in your tree /research ?

allan

[Anne Wilson]

Hi Allan
Yep, did consider that Elizabeth may have married again but the Pinnington family here in Oz are adamant that Henry was an orphan when he came out.
We're also in the process of trying to find out who he came out with as that may lead to more info as to what happened to the rest of the children. No other Pinnington's are listed on the Canton passenger list & no further records of any of them having come out at a later date.
Thomas & Elizabeth had 8 children but 2 died & Thomas' death notice confirms that he "left a widow & 6 infant children to lament their loss":
Thomas Kenyon:      B; 3/11/1811....Buried 15/7/1814
Elizabeth Ann:         Chr; 19/6/1814
James Kenyon:        Chr; 23/4/1817
Richard Taylor:        Chr; 23/4/1820
William:                   Chr; 22/7/1822
Thomas Stretch:      Chr; 21/5/1826
Henrietta Attwood: Chr; 12/6/1827....Buried 15/11/1827
Henry Crowther:     Chr 15/11/1829 & died in Oz 30/6/1898.
At this point the name BOND hasn't come up in connection to the Pinningtons.
Cheers
Annie

[garstonite]

Annie...I fully understand that theory , but it was not uncommon for a man to marry a Widow with children , only for him to decide he didn`t want the kids ...too much trouble and cost...so he MADE his wife put them in a workhouse or an Orphanage...women didn`t argue with men in those days...( a bit like our house here...lol )
it is just an option for you to consider...maybe , just maybe they were not orphaned ,but dumped in the workhouse by a stepfather...as I say ..it wasn`t uncommon in those days....Henry Morton Stanley ,of Dr Livingstone fame ,was born James Rowlands and dumped in a Liverpool workhouse aged 5 ....he is a classic case of this scenario ...allan

[Anne Wilson]

Thanks for that Allan.....I must admit I've wondered along those lines myself because I haven't been able to find any conclusive trace of the remaining family....if they were scattered, this could explain it.
Can you tell me if the originals of the parish records contain any further info other than that which is mentioned on the OPC site? I'm wondering if it would help narrow down Elizabeth's death or possible re-marriage.
Thanks once again.
Annie

[jobob]

hello , have been trying to discover what may have happened to the children of Elizabeth Stringfellow & Thomas Pinnington ...can not find anything????apart from my Henry Crowther, have been looking at the middle names of the childen trying to fit them to relatives and think i have achieved most bar : Atwood & Crowther, well STRetch could be a sister of Robert ,the father of Thomas Pinnington bp  1790,maybe???
I have KENYON as paternal grandmother, Taylor as Maternal grandmother,
Does anyone have any info on Robert Pinnington i have George as his father him being bp 2nd Aug 1761 Hawkeshead i do not know if this is correct..is it close to St Johns St peter lancashire?

can anyone make a connection with Atwood, Crowther, i believe that the STRETCH, is from Elizabeth Pennington(Pinnington) whom married Thomas Stretch?, they have a thomas Pinnington Stretch bp 1820 st Peter married 1847 Clithero, the first child i have foubd for them was a Thomas also,he was bp 1805 St Nicholas Liverpool as their other children so there is a bit of a gap., I mention this family as i have a feeling they are connected to my Pinningtons just have to discover how, perhaps they will lead me to the siblings' of Henry Crowther which in turn will help to know what happened to Elizabeth Pinnington nee Stringfellow..

If anyone has any ideas, facts or advice i would appreciate cheers & kind regards Joanne

[keyboard86]

Hi Joanne, not having much luck with the children, but thought for perusal, this looks like the Elizabeth McCann in 1841, and also the Bond connection?

1841 Census

Robert McCann 50 occ Lab b Ireland
Elizabeth 45 b Lancashire
Residing at Shaw Alley, Tyrer Place, Liverpool.
Census ref HO107/566/ 19/11/ 14

1841 census

Edward Bond occ Shoemaker b Lancashire
Sarah 35 Not born in county
Mary A 7 b Lancashire
Charlotte 5 b Lancashire
Residing at Pinnington Street, Liverpool.
Census ref HO107/558/ 10/45/ 33
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