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Rudolph Philip KRETSCHMAR
« on: Saturday 16 July 11 10:22 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,
I am trying to locate the death of Rudolph Philip KRETSCHMAR.

He married my Great-great-great grandmother Ellen ISHERWOOD in 1893. She passed away in 1898 and he went on to marry two more times.
Jane BUTLER in 1900 and Sarah Jane WANSTALL in 1906.

I know he had a daughter Violet Grace born 1900 and an illegitimate child born 1904.
I can track him until 1906 but then he seems to disappear.

I searched the deaths microfiche at the library but I was unable to find him.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Sincerely
Belinda
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Re: Rudolph Philip KRETSCHMAR
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 July 11 21:58 BST (UK) »

Cannot see him on Electoral Rolls after 1905-1906 when he was in Palmerston North as a carpenter. No wife shown.  Maybe he went overseas?

Only 7 people with that surname in white pages - might be worthwhile trying to contact a living family member to see if they can help ???

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Re: Rudolph Philip KRETSCHMAR
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 July 11 22:11 BST (UK) »
There were some name matches for this man in US records, but probably just a coincidence..if all else fails it may may to look there
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Althea

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Re: Rudolph Philip KRETSCHMAR
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 July 11 13:50 BST (UK) »
Do you know what happened to the children, and to Sarah Jane?
Are there parents/siblings of Rudolph who died in NZ after 1906? (they might have left obituaries that mention him).
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Re: Rudolph Philip KRETSCHMAR
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 03:43 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,
Thank you all for your replies.

I have not been able to find his 3rd wife Sarah.

Violet Grace died 1968 and is buried at Waikumete Cemetery.

Rudolphs parents were CHRISTIAN FRIEDRICK KRETSCHMAR and JOHANNA SOPHIA DOROTHEA. Johanna died 1917 so it is possible he is mentioned in the death notice(if there is one).

Thank you again for all the ideas.
Belinda

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Re: Rudolph Philip KRETSCHMAR
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 04:28 BST (UK) »
So I suppose C F is the husband mentioned above
Source   NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname   KRETSCHMAR
Given Names   C F
Year of Death   1906
Record Number   28053
Record Type   M/I
Age   76
Location   Waikumete Cemetery Auckland B02.31
   
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Re: Rudolph Philip KRETSCHMAR
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 05:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Althea  :D

Yes that is his father.

Belinda
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Chitty
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Re: Rudolph Philip KRETSCHMAR
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 05:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Belinda,

Here is C F's burial,the records for  C LITTLE & SONS LIMITED are at the Auckland Public Library


KRETCHSMAR, CHRISTIAN FRIEDRICK
Plot :                                  WESLEY DIVISION B Row 7, Plot 7B
Interment Type:              Burial
Title:                                  MR
Surname :                        KRETCHSMAR
Given Names:                 CHRISTIAN FRIEDRICK
Age :                                  76
Gender :                            Male
Occupation:                     CARPENTER
Date Of Death :                06-Apr-1906
Date Of Burial :                07-Apr-1906   
Funeral Director :           C LITTLE & SONS LIMITED
Head Stone Details :      Y

KRETCHMAR, JOHANNA SOPHIA DOROTHEA
Plot :                                  WESLEY DIVISION B Row 7, Plot 7A
Interment Type:              Burial
Title:                                  Mrs
Surname :                        KRETCHMAR
Given Names:                 JOHANNA SOPHIA DOROTHEA
Age :                                  82
Gender :                            Female
Occupation:                     WIFE
Date Of Death :                06-Aug-1917
 Date Of Burial :                08-Aug-1917   
Funeral Director :           UNKNOWN
Head Stone Details :      Y

Hard to find with the different spellings,Violet Grace was cremated and her ashes scattered


Cheers Janette

PS if you would like a photo of the Waikumete headstone I can do it for you



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Re: Rudolph Philip KRETSCHMAR
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 05:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you Janette that would be wonderful  ;D

Would it be possible to have one more headstone photographed?
It is for Hales Bridget HADFIELD
WESLEY DIVISION C Row 23, Plot 12

Thank you so much it is very much appreciated
Belinda
Barnes-London
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Hanham-Essex, Dorset, Stratford, NZ
Samways-London, NZ, Australia
Clifton-Kent, NZ
Brown-Northumberland
Pegum-Ireland, NZ
Isherwood-Liverpool, NZ, Fiji
Norris-NZ
Milligan-Scotland, NZ
Jennison-Yorkshire, NZ
Chitty
Green-Liverpool, NZ, Fiji
Fulcher/Fulshire-Norfolk
Budd-Sussex, NZ
Hilder-Sussex
Heyman-London
Matthews-Cromwell, NZ
Murrell-Essex, NZ