John Lloyd D.Lovat d.11/11/1918

[RedMystic]

Hi Crunwere,

It has been a while since you updated us on this great story. It has stuck with me since then.

The author / photographer who provided the ghost town pictures of the town & graveyard of Lovett would love to do an expanded story on on John Lloyd, the RootsChat sleuth & the more recent military recognition. He feels quite strongly that it would be picked up by at least one major Alberta publication (perhaps the Edmonton Journal).

The advantage to you is that it would provide you with a professionally documented summary.

Please let me know if I can forward your contact info to him.

All the best.

[Crunwere]

Yes no problem RedMystic - any help locally is much appreciated.

I have sent you a personal message.

Regards

[Crunwere]

These are the two images of John Lloyd that were uncovered by a family member:



This we believe may be in about 1908 judging by the ages of the children and someone said by the style of the uniform.
His children were born:
Evelyn Mary Lloyd 1902 – 1987
Thomas Lloyd 1903 – 1967
Walter John Lloyd 1905 – 1906
Emma Irene Lloyd 1906 – 1910
Elizabeth Jane Lloyd 1907 – 1907
Winifred Annie Lloyd 1908 – 1910
Hugh James Lloyd 1910 – 1986



This was taken in Whitland, West Wales, UK - in 1916 and we believe when he was on his was to France.



This is a close-up of his face.  It looks like scars - but where from?

[Crunwere]

Sorry for the large images above but did them that way for everyone to see the detail on the uniforms.

I have also put the pictures on the WW1 thread here - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,644415.0.html

[RedMystic]

Great photos.  Have you put a link to this page on the Photo dating board so they can lend their expertise? Those Chatters are amazing!

I'm particularly curious about a date for the first one with the children. If, as his 1916 attestation papers say, he had worked in the Big Collier mines in Alberta for 9 years then he must have travelled back & forth to the UK several times.

Can anyone narrow the date of the photo with the children? 

What uniform is he in? Could it be a prison warden uniform from before he left for Canada? As far as I can determine, there would have been no reason for him to have a military dress uniform in Alberta in 1908 (6 years before WWI started).

Can any expert Chatter find multiple trips between UK-Canada-UK for John through mid-1900s to 1916?  I only found 1 & it said he was returning to Canada.

[Crunwere]

Thanks RedMystic - I have them on the three threads now - here - WW1 and also on the Photo dating one - all linked back to here.

I regard this as the main one now so any discoveries I will post back here anyway.

[Crunwere]

One reply so far:

The 1st. one is later than 1908.
The woman's dress style came in just before WW1 & the dropped waist on the girl's dress around 1915.
The 2nd. picture has this man with a wound stripe so he received his injury while on service.
jim

No idea what the 'wound stripe' is.

[Crunwere]

WOUND STRIPES from wikipedia:

The British Army began awarding a brass "Wound Stripe" in 1916, with approval by King George V. The badge was worn on the left forearm, fastened through the uniform cloth.....Soldiers of the  Canadian Expeditionary Force followed suit in the First World War, and issued wound stripes according to British practice

Cannot see it myself?

[mmm45]

Try the CEF study group (google) first one looks like a Engineers badge the other very difficult.

http://cefresearch.ca/

Theres no wound stripe its just the cuff detail.Wound stripe is a single gold stripe per wound recieved in action so there can be multiple stripes.

Ady