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Re: GRAVE INSCRIPTIONS-ST JOHN At HACKNEY CHURCH
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 January 15 18:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks guys.
I knew that these 4 burials were not on the GRO.
I'm in Canada, could you tell me which particular office to contact?
Thxs Anne

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Re: GRAVE INSCRIPTIONS-ST JOHN At HACKNEY CHURCH
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 31 January 15 08:24 GMT (UK) »
Valdas post may help or try googling Hackney registration district.  Sorry I can't be more help.  Unfortunately the London Boroughs are not as helpful to London family historians as they are elsewhere in the country.
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Re: GRAVE INSCRIPTIONS-ST JOHN At HACKNEY CHURCH
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 31 January 15 16:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Marquessate, I will give that a try!
Will let you know what happens.

Take care

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Re: GRAVE INSCRIPTIONS-ST JOHN At HACKNEY CHURCH
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 31 January 15 17:59 GMT (UK) »
Deaths Sept 1854

HASKINS  Frances Eveline     Hackney  1b 228
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea

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Re: GRAVE INSCRIPTIONS-ST JOHN At HACKNEY CHURCH
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 31 January 15 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Details for requesting searches at Hackney register office can be found here

http://www.hackney.gov.uk/births-historical-searches.htm#.VM0cJLtybMw

Deaths are recorded in the area the death took place, not the place of burial. If they died away from home in another district ie a hospital, the death should be recorded elsewhere.#

I've had a good look around and agree the others are proving difficult to find.

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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea

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Re: GRAVE INSCRIPTIONS-ST JOHN At HACKNEY CHURCH
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 June 17 19:27 BST (UK) »
Sorry to raise this old issue but I too have a burial register entry for St John-at-Hackney for a Thomas James born 1795, died 1859, whose death cannot be traced in the GRO.  I was lucky to have an exact date of death, i.e. 28 Feb 1859 taken from details of an inscription on the family vault found on the LDS film mentioned earlier in this chat and so requested a three year search by the GRO but without success.

The burial register entry for St J at H is for a Thomas James of the correct age and within a week of the death, i.e., 7 March 1859.  Now that the GRO birth and death indexes are available, I have searched these and cannot trace a death confirming the GRO findings.

Of course, Thomas may not have died in the UK but was being remembered on the vault - his brother was buried in Blackburn and his sister in Eastbourne yet they are mentioned on the family vault so the burial register entry I found may not relate to the Thomas on the family vault.

Is it possible from your research numberfour that some notification of deaths in the Hackney Registration Office did not reach the General Registry Office? 

Thank you for any thoughts you may have on this.

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Re: GRAVE INSCRIPTIONS-ST JOHN At HACKNEY CHURCH
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 June 17 20:19 BST (UK) »
exact date of death, i.e. 28 Feb 1859 taken from details of an inscription on the family vault found on the LDS film mentioned earlier in this chat and so requested a three year search by the GRO but without success.

Deaths are registered in the district where they took place, regardless of place of burial. So he may have died in another district, not Hackney. Perhaps he died in St Bartholomew’s Hospital, in the City of London? Hackney is adjacent to the City.

from the GRO death index ...
Mar Qtr 1859
JAMES Thomas, aged 67
London City vol 1c page 55

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Re: GRAVE INSCRIPTIONS-ST JOHN At HACKNEY CHURCH
« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 June 17 22:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your prompt response Bookbox.  I had seen this entry too knowing that while registration had to occur at the registry office for where the death occurred, burial could occur anywhere.  The age though is not correct, however, this could be because the person registering the death did not know Thomas's actual age. I expect the only way I shall ever find out is by ordering this certificate.

Thank you for your input on this one.

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Re: GRAVE INSCRIPTIONS-ST JOHN At HACKNEY CHURCH
« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 June 17 22:30 BST (UK) »
What is your source for his year of birth?