Agnes Mary BURNS and Agnes Montgomery MCEWAN - are they the same person?

[peterd500]

Is this the birth of the mysterious sibling  1 year old Edward?

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/
NZ Births
1870/13424, WATKINS Percy Hervey,  Agnes, Bazzelt
[ date filter gives 30 Mar 1870 ]

Hello Lu
thanks for those birth records, I'm pretty sure they are brothers of Agnes


and the birth certificate of Frederick Andrew, the first child born in Aus, states:
born 14 Nov 1871 Reilly St, Melbourne
registered 21 Feb 1872
father Edward SHATTOCK accountant age 25 born London
mother Agnes SHATTOCK formerly BYRNES age 24 born United States of America
married October 1869 Auckland NZ
sibling Edward age 1 year

I am beginning to get suspicious here
they perhaps had Edward very shortly after the marriage; and they must have somehow come to Aus between Oct 1870 and Nov 1871 - but they are not on the PRO Vic shipping list - I suppose they may have used a false name?

thanks again

[Vizards]

How interesting! So:

24 June 1869 Bazett Watkins and Agnes McEwan marry at her mother's house in Auckland, NZ
By 26 October 1869, they had separated (according to the newspaper notice)
30 Mar 1870 their son, Percy Hervey, was born.

[I think the name Hervey probably comes from a relation of Bazett's. Bazett's older cousin, Mary Ann Delamotte, had married Charles Robert West Hervey. CRW Hervey was a colonel in the army by then. Bazett's family tended to use surnames of relatives. Perhaps they had had a brief reconciliation when the child was born, or Bazett had registered the child.]

16 October 1870 Agnes (who was still married to Bazett) married Edward Shattock, using the false name of Burns, to avoid being exposed as a bigamist.

They emigrated to Australia, changing the name of Percy Hervey to Edward Foster. They also altered their marriage date, so that Edward appeared to be their child.

[Kiwigirl]

Thank you to all for your help in uncovering this mystery.... I too am related to Agnes McEwan.  She is my 3rd great aunt.  I have been trying to unravel this mystery and in touch with a Shattock descendant in Australia so now I can tell him what all of you have helped to find out.  Thank you Thank you Thank you!

These ancestors who changed their names....  I have another one and I'm working on that now too...

Angela

[Vizards]

Yes, funnily enough Bazett was registered in England as Arthur rather than as Bazett! However, when he was christened two years later, his father renamed him after his (rich and successful) cousin, Bazett Doveton.

[Kiwigirl]

Hi Louisa,

I am one of the people trying to unravel this mystery.  Would it be possible please to obtain a copy of the marriage certificate which you have? 

Thank you

Angela

OK, have the marriage certificate in front of me

witnesses
J. M. Barnes  very flamboyant squiggles around the initials but I think it's J M (and definitely not BURNS) and
E. Brown

I wonder if the Rev. William John Dean was Presbyterian?
there is no mention of the religion on the cert

[Kiwigirl]

Hi Lucy, Do you have a copy of the full Obituary for Janet McEwan nee Bowman.  She is my 3rd great grandmother?  If so can you tell me where you found it please?

Thank you

Angela

OBITUARY  -- Mrs Isaac McEWAN  [ Janet McEWAN ]

["NZ Herald" (Auckland) - 14 June 1904 ]

"Amongst fast thinning ranks of old colonists few were better known in the early days than the late Mrs Isaac McEWAN whose death at the age of 94 took place on Sunday last.   Deceased arrived in the "Duchess of Argyle" on October 10, 1842 with her husband, and daughter, born a month before leaving Glasgow.
Her descendants now number 74 comprising 4 * children, 36 grandchildren and 34 great grandchildren.

Mrs McEWAN's first residence was a tent but her husband ( who died about 40 years ago) soon erected a baker's oven and carried on for many years a successful business nearly opposite the present BNZ**.
Mrs McEWAN with the energy that characterised so many of these old settlers continued the business of her husband, successfully for some time.

One son and one daughter still reside in Auckland - Mr Andrew McEWAN of Hesketh's Store in Queen Street, and Mrs OTTO of Collingwood Street.   Her eldest son Mr Robert McEWAN was killed by the natives on one of the South Sea Islands many years ago.

The deceased is to be laid beside her husband in the Symonds Street Cemetery this afternoon."
                       *  *  *   *  *  *  *  *  *

[Notes:  *  The obit stated 4 (four) children - even though the d/c records additional "living issue".
**   BNZ refers to the "Bank of New Zealand" building.  ]

[Lucy2]

Hi Angela

Here is the link to the Obituary ("New Zealand Herald" - 14 June 1904) >

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19040614.2.26

   ~  Lu

[Kiwigirl]

Thank you Lucy, I couldn't find it.  I really appreciate your help.

Angela

[Lucy2]

I forgot to put in that I have the NZ death certificate of Janet McEwan
died 12 June 1904 , 6 Ellingwoth St, Auckland
age 84 years
fathers surname Bowman, mother's name blank, father's occupation pattern designer
born Glasgow
in NZ 62 years
married Glasgow age 16 to Isaac McEwan
issue living 4 males aged 54, 52, 50, 48 and 2 females aged 62 and 56
unfortunately they are not named.

Hi Angela

You may wish to take note of Louisa's earlier posting ^ (above) :     

Janet's living children at the time of her death (1904) and according the her death record,  number more than were mentioned in her Obituary.    [Obit. stated "four children" - death record shows 4 sons, 2 daughters. ]

    ~  Lu