Alexander McGregor of Stornoway

[Gadget]

This looks very much like her

Death 1864  Fodderty Helen McGregor, mother name - Stewart Other name (i.e. maiden name) Gillanders, aged 63.

Full cert will be on SP.


Your grandmother will be happy 

gnu

(Got to go to the Recycling centre now but will see if I can find anymore later)

[carna]

Soooo excited ! !

Definitely looking like the right ones.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

Have a great day!
Carna

[Gadget]

 


Helen died on  23 Nov 1864 at Conon Cotttage. Aged 63.  Her parents were George Gillanders and Christina, M.S. Stewart. Both deceased by 1864. Son Roderick was the informant.

William McGregor died 9 Dec 1869 at Conon Cottage, Maryburgh. Aged 81. His parents were Roderick McGregor and ? maiden name McKenzie, both deceased. Son Roderick was the informant.

I've just found this which I hope you will like - sad but ~

http://gravestones.rosscromartyroots.co.uk/picture/number13455.asp


gnu


Added - the tombstone has William dying on 9 Jan 1870. I think that they were a month out for some reason

[Gadget]

There is an Ancestry tree for Helen ( Boswell, etc) but it gives less information than I've given. it does, however, have Alexander dying Hargraves, NSW in 1898.

It might be worth following up the death.


Also gives the location of William and Helen in 1841. They were at the farm of Galson (parish of Barvas) with 1 year old Helen and servants). I assume that they left Christina and the othersminding   the Melbost farm.


gnu

[carna]

Thanks

I will definitely follow up on the death of Alexander and look at the  ancestry tree for
Helen.

Carna

[AMBLY]

Hi Carna

If you view the 1841 for Melbost farm at FreeCen - there are, as well as the McGREGOR offspring,  7 servants (farm & domestic) - this goes well with the 'Farming family of some means' picture drawn earlier
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

The reason I asked whether or not Alexander had issue with his 2nd wife…..

The NSW registration district for Hargraves, is MUDGEE.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm

I can find no index entry  Alexander McGREGOR (MacGREGOR) death in Mudgee 1897-1898.
It's worth noting, that on one tree on A88** y it says death is Aft 1898 in Hargraves - indicating,  perhaps there was a family event in 1898, when Alexander was known to be alive & present?

Also worth noting -
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tip.general/1952.1.2/mb.ashx
Margaret LONERGAN's parents were Thomas & Bridget (nee McGOLDRICK) who died respectively in 1895 and 1911 Hargraves.  It also seems Margaret was probably quite a bit younger than Alexander (says her parents didn't marry themselves until 1847) and if so, she may well be still of child bearing age in 1898 - see below, birth index entries

There is the following - all McGREGOR,  in MUDGEE, some at least (the earlier ones) appear promising, and certainley the 1911 death:

DEATHS
1911, Alexander J G McGREGOR - parents William & Ellen
1874 Thomas A McGREGOR - parents Alexander J &  Margaret M

BIRTH
1873 Thomas A   - parents Alexander James & Margaret Maria
1876 Ellen - parents Alexander & Margaret
1878 Mary - parents Alexander J & Mary M
1880 Bridget Margaret - parents Alexander & Margaret
1882 Lucy G - parents Alexander & Margaret M
1885 Annie A - parents Alexander & Margaret
1887 Grace - parents Alexander & Margaret
1891 Christina M - parents Alexander & Margaret
1894 Hanora - parents Alexander & Margaret
1898 Sylvia AM - parents Alexander & Margaret

Also in the MUDGEE indexes are births of issue of Thomas & Bridget LONERGAN - including a Honora - - can't see a Margaret though.

In the 1901 NSW Census - District 52, Hargraves, Mudgee (County: Wellington)
Louisa Creek, near Mudgee :  L LONERGAN, Household 92 - 3 males, 7 females
Hargraves: Alex McGREGOR - Household 96 - 1 male, 5 females
Hargraves: B LONERGAN - Household 97 - 2 males, 2 females

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

Not sure if you had come across this - Hargarves Catholic Cemetery
http://austcemindex.com/cemetery-inscriptions.php?id=44
The LONERGANS are listed (photo of Thomas & Bridget's headstone)

but no McGREGORS in there or at the Hargraves General Cemetery at:
http://austcemindex.com/cemetery-inscriptions.php?id=43

or Louisa Creek Pioneer Cemetery:
http://austcemindex.com/cemetery-inscriptions.php?id=52

 (it does say there are many unmarked burials & plots & overgrown graves)

Cheers
AMBLY

[carna]

Hi Ambly,

Thanks heaps for continuing the search.

I am unsure if Alexander and Margaret had children together.
I have seen a request for information about the McGregors and Mortons somewhere in cyberspace, but haven't found it again.

The author is a Robert Russell, a grt grandson of Margaret Lonergan.

I haven't been able to find the death notice for Alexander either.

I will keep searching though. It will bug me until I find it.

Thanks for all your help,
Carna

[AMBLY]

Hi Carna

This is the piece you are looking for re: Margaret's descendant:
http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/hw/help2010.htm

No I can't find Alexander's death notice in Trove etc, either - but I do think it's him in the 1901 Census (next to his aged mother in law), and  his death 1911.

He'a also listed  in Hargraves (as is Thomas LONERGAN, Margaret's father)  in 1872 at:
http://www.family.joint.net.au/index.php?cid=301&mid=1
Greville's Post Office Directory 1872  LOUISA CREEK

Cheers
AMBLY