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Andrew Hamilton-Pensioner?
« on: Monday 29 August 11 12:34 BST (UK) »
Andrew Hamilton, born 1831, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, in both the 1861 & 1871 Scotland census is described as being a pensioner. Anyone know what this phrase means-is it the modern meaning, that he did not need to work because he was in receipt of a pension, rather like an annuitant?

I have linked Andrew into a family of Hamilton's including a William Hamilton and his wife Mary, and family including, John his younger brother who is boarding with the Irvine family in 1871-Andrew again being shown as a pensioner.

The reference for the 1871 census is: Glasgow Barony; ED: 76; Page:  15; Line: 10; Roll: CSSCT1871_138;

My interest lies with his sister Jane, who married John Irvine. John Hamilton, Andrew's brother is shown as being a painter. William Hamilton, Andrew's father, in the census goes from being a Brewer's servant in 1841, a Journeyman Brewer in 1861  to a Brewer in 1871. So Andrew's pension cant come from the death of his father.

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Re: Andrew Hamilton-Pensioner?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 August 11 13:22 BST (UK) »
He may have seen active service in the Armed Forces and was perhaps pensioned out due to an injury. He would have been the right age for the Crimean War.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.


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Re: Andrew Hamilton-Pensioner?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 August 11 13:47 BST (UK) »
Lodger,

Yes that would make sense; unable to work due to a war injury and in receipt of a pension-any suggestions where I go from there?

Thanks.

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Re: Andrew Hamilton-Pensioner?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 August 11 13:50 BST (UK) »
does the parish of Carluke ,Lanarkshire have any meaning to you ?  did he have any children?  ;)
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 August 11 13:55 BST (UK) »
does Salisbury Street, Glasgow figure in any of your addresses for Andrew ?
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Re: Andrew Hamilton-Pensioner?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 August 11 14:23 BST (UK) »
 In 1841 he is Graham Square and 1851 in Green Street, then Deanside Lane in 1861 & F. Hill Square in 1871.  I can't find him so far in 1881.

I don't know if he married, but I am looking at him in the shortened form, as opposed to the census on another database called S********P****e!

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Re: Andrew Hamilton-Pensioner?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 August 11 15:41 BST (UK) »
does Andrew ever have the occupation of  a Baker on any census,,,or is he always a pensioner  ?
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 August 11 15:46 BST (UK) »
forget my last 2 questions,,,the man i had was still in the army in 1871,,,,
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Re: Andrew Hamilton-Pensioner?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 August 11 18:33 BST (UK) »
That's a shame I was getting quite excited, I see that there is an Andrew Hamilton born around 1832 born Carluke both in Census and also in the Chelsea Pensioners database from F***DM*P**T, but I think my Andrew wasn't born Carluke.

I take it that there isn't a Free BMD equivalent for Scotland.

Tom