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John Edward Butterfield
« on: Friday 16 September 11 00:06 BST (UK) »
John Edward Butterfield  (1840 – 1910)     
Born 1840 in Sulford, (?) UK
Parents: Joseph Butterfield & Sarah Hodgin
Married  1864 Corfu  age 24 was a Sergeant 2 Batt. 9 Reg Corfu
Said to have served in Queen Victoria's Army in the Boer and Crimean War also beginning of Boxer Rebellion in China
Arrived in 1869 Australia  - Died 1910 Australia

Cannot find birth or Army records.
Any help appreciated.

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Re: John Edward Butterfield
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 September 11 00:07 BST (UK) »
Perhaps Salford?

Added- FreeBMD:
John Edmund Butterfield July/Sept.1840 Salford district volume 20 page 715
John Edmund Butterfield July/Sept.1840 Salford district volume 20 page 713

(looks as though they had trouble reading the page number)
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Re: John Edward Butterfield
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 September 11 00:16 BST (UK) »
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Lowe(Lower Gornall-Castleford)
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Fairburn(Hartshead)
Wood(Liversedge)
Tallon (Whittington Lancs/Hartshead West Yorkshire)

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Re: John Edward Butterfield
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 September 11 01:38 BST (UK) »
There is a duplicate post here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,555739.0.html

Thanks for posting that. Have locked it with a note to post any replies on this thread.
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Re: John Edward Butterfield
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 September 11 02:00 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your help and sorry for the duplicate post - wasn't sure where to post as just a beginner with family research.
Not sure how to understand army records as all records I've found seem to date after his arrival (1869) in Australia.

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Re: John Edward Butterfield
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 September 11 08:25 BST (UK) »
It is definitely Salford, near Manchester (Lancashire), England.

Both battalions of the 9th Regiment were in the Ionian Islands in the 1860s. They left together for Gibraltar in June 1864. The 2nd Battalion went to China (later Japan) at the end of 1864. That may be the source of the ‘Boxer’ story. He would have been too old for the Boxer Rebellion of 1900, and also for the (2nd) Boer War around the same time. The 9th Regiment were not involved in the 1st Boer War of 1881. And they do not appear to have served in Australia in his time. So either history has become a bit muddled, or he transferred to another regiment, or went after being discharged

I also could not find him in the Crimea medal rolls, but he is likely to have been too young for that.

Ken

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Re: John E Butterfield
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 September 11 12:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Ken, I'm sure you've found the right record, this is wonderful.
Do you know where I can find more on 

RE:  "They left together for Gibraltar in June 1864. The 2nd Battalion went to China (later Japan) at the end of 1864."

I was beginning to think I'd never find him (my gg grandfather) or if the family story that was passed down had any truth to it or not!!
The story goes their first child, a daughter was born in China but they lost her, something to do with taking a wall???
The next child a son was born in Japan about 1868. He was 1 year old when they arrived in Australia.
Do you know of anyone being granted land by the Queen for their service? As that was another part of the story handed down that I can't find anything about? 

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Re: John Edward Butterfield
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 September 11 04:55 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help with information on:
Unit 2nd Btn 9th Foot East Norfolk

Also:
How do I access this record at National Archives reference: WO12 / 2732