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Re: SWEDEN.....Surname ALLAND!! came to Scotland 1900
« Reply #36 on: Friday 15 June 18 16:57 BST (UK) »
I see the difference. Sorry about that I didn't see it. I'll get back to you later.

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Re: SWEDEN.....Surname ALLAND!! came to Scotland 1900
« Reply #37 on: Monday 18 June 18 10:31 BST (UK) »
Hi
Here are some more records including the one from 4 years ago. There may be some duplicates:


1884 - Ernst Hugo - Household Examnination - Oskarshamn Parish: With Abel and Maria.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m82/

1886 - Maria Charlotte Persson - Household Examnination - Gothenburg Oscar Fredrik Parish: With note on marriage to Claesson:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m81/

1890 - Maria Charlotte Claesson - Household Examnination - Gothenburg Domkyrko Parish: With Ernst Hugo.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m7z/

1893 - Ernst Hugo Alland - Household Examnination - Gothenburg Domkyrko Parish: The record I posted 4 years ago.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m83/

1899 - Maria Charlotte Claesson - Household Examnination - Gothenburg Domkyrko Parish:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m7y/

1904 - Ernst Hugo Alland - Moving in - Gothenburg Domkyrko Parish: It looks as though he didn't goto USA. Just returned.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m7v/

1907 - Ernst Hugo Alland - Household Examnination - Gothenburg Domkyrko Parish: He was put in the missings persons book 1907.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m7w/

1908 - Maria Charlotte Claesson - Household Examnination - Gothenburg Vasa Parish: Maria's last entry in the boof before her death.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m7x/


Ian


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Re: SWEDEN.....Surname ALLAND!! came to Scotland 1900
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 17:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ian!

I came across two police photos of Ernst online, and I wonder if you know of any ways to search Swedish police records to find out what someone was charged and/or convicted of?

This is the information from the record (via google translate) :

Ernst Hugo Alland Persson
Engineer
f. 21/4 1875 in Kristianstad city center (Kristianstad County)

Portrait from 1899
Police Report: 6/3 1899

Police reports 6/3 and 20/3 1899
Hometown in Gothenburg

The photos are here:
http://digitalastadsarkivet.stockholm.se/Databas/stockholmspolisens-spaningsfotografier-1869-1920/Visa/ernst-hugo-alland-persson/10955?sidindex=10
http://digitalastadsarkivet.stockholm.se/Databas/stockholmspolisens-spaningsfotografier-1869-1920/Visa/ernst-hugo-alland-persson/10954?sidindex=9

I used google translate to get an idea of what information was on the file attached to the photos, but as you can probably see, it's personal information (DOB, birthplace, hair/eye colour etc), no actual information on the offense/arrest.

Thanks so much again for being so kind!

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Re: SWEDEN.....Surname ALLAND!! came to Scotland 1900
« Reply #39 on: Friday 22 June 18 00:25 BST (UK) »

and I wonder if you know of any ways to search Swedish police records to find out what someone was charged and/or convicted of?


There are magistrate books online somewhere but the parish would have to be known. Great photos by the way.

Ian



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Re: SWEDEN.....Surname ALLAND!! came to Scotland 1900
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 20 January 19 12:54 GMT (UK) »
To Whom It May Concern,
Due to my weak English my granddaughter, Matilda, has helped me translate the following text I have written from Swedish to English.
On account of the interest of Abel Persson I send you, whomever the receiver might be, this message with information concerning Abel and his family. I have found this data when searching my own family history and the information is found, for some parts at least, in his estate inventory. Some information is also found in a register Carl-Augusts Persson was writing in 1912.
Abel Persson and Maria Charlotta got married four days before Ernst Hugo was born in 1875. Maria moved to Gothenburg, Sweden, the same day as Ernst Hugo was born. Based on this information it could be so, that Maria is not Ernst Hugo’s biological mother. Whether this is true or not is unknown though.
Ernst Hugo moved to Gothenburg in mars 1877 to live with Abel and Maria. In 1883 the whole family moved to Oskarshamn, county of Kalmar, Sweden. Shortly after the move, six months to be more precise, Abel dies of tuberculosis.
Abel was born in Blomskog, a countryside in the county of Värmland, Sweden. His parents, Per Andersson (1810-1876) and Lisa Larsdotter (1807-1894), was also born in Blomskog, Sweden.
In the estate inventory deed after Abel the following information could be found:
The heirs of Abel where Maria and their son Ernst Hugo Persson Alland. Something that is worth mentioning is that, this is the first time Ernst Hugo is called Alland. Unfortunately, I do not know why Alland is added to his surname.
Furthermore, my grandfather´s, Pontus Persson’s, father, Carl-August Persson wrote a register 1912 on his family. According to this register, Abel had a son called Ernst Hugo. As per to this register Ernst Hugo was already dead when the register was written. My father’s father, Pontus, and Abel’s son, Ernst Hugo, where cousins.
Maria Charlotta died in 1908 and her only heirs was her siblings.
Regarding the mentioned charge sheet from 1899 the crime Ernst Hugo was suspected for (and possibly convicted for) was gear forgery.
In conclusion a will shortly explain how surname was decided in the 19th century if someone finds it interesting. During these time children often took their fathers first name and added the suffix “son” or “dotter”, which means “son” or “daughter”. For example: Persson/Persdotter.
Regarding the attach file/picture this was Abel Perssons home when he grew up. This house still exist in Blomskog (nowdays Årjäng), Sweden.
Hopefully this text has been interesting and informative for whomever how is interested in Abel Persson and his family life.



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Re: SWEDEN.....Surname ALLAND!! came to Scotland 1900
« Reply #41 on: Friday 05 June 20 19:03 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
I was researching the name Alland ss my grandmother was named Christina Alland as her father was called Ernst Alland who came to Scotland in 1900. This is extremely interesting indeed.

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Re: SWEDEN.....Surname ALLAND!! came to Scotland 1900
« Reply #42 on: Friday 05 June 20 19:36 BST (UK) »
Hi ian, San, Leena,
Just reading through all these threads and blown away by the information.
Thank you so much.

The lady on the left is Ernst daughter Maria Alland born in 1902 Dumbarton Glasgow. The lady on the right is her sister  my grandmorher Christina Alland but sadly I dont think Ernst was her father.

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Re: SWEDEN.....Surname ALLAND!! came to Scotland 1900
« Reply #43 on: Friday 05 June 20 20:06 BST (UK) »
Great photo.
Lenaa hasn't been online for over a year 4 years. Let's hope she sees this.


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Re: SWEDEN.....Surname ALLAND!! came to Scotland 1900
« Reply #44 on: Friday 05 June 20 20:12 BST (UK) »
HI Ian,

I hope she does get on to see it.
It seems San is a blood relative of my Great Aunt Maria.
Im blown away by all this info tonight. I wish I logged on years ago x