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NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« on: Monday 19 September 11 09:21 BST (UK) »
Is there anyone out there who has any interest in the Nowells of Brixham, who also migrated to Ramsgate, Tenby and Hull?
In particular has anyone done any work on the conundrum of the numerous Nicholas' who pop up in every branch?
I have done quite a lot, but it would be useful to compare notes.
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Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.

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Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 October 11 12:44 BST (UK) »
Hi I am searching for John William Nowell from Brixham Devon born about 1809. He married Charlotte Thompson 29 Nov 1830 in Dover, Kent she was born about 1810 Brixham but I havent been able to locate both of their baptisms. 4 of their children I believe were born in Ireland John and Charlotte also lived in Ramsgate. John was a fisherman- any connections? I havent come across any Nicholas yet.

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Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 October 11 15:27 BST (UK) »
According to the IGI, Charlotte THOMPSON was baptised at Brixham 24 Aug 1809, dau of Thomas & Hannah.
The IGI also has several baptisms which 'may' be relevant as they took place in Brixham - one that 'could' be yours is a William NOWELL son of John & Temperance baptised 10 Mar 1808.
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Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 October 11 15:51 BST (UK) »

Hi, I am sorry, I have not come across this connection as yet. 
I will ask someone who is a Nowell descendant if she can help.
 
I expect you have looked at family search? I am betting this must be one of the children??

Hannah Tomson Nowell - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 25 MAR 1852 Ramsgate, Kent, England
 
good luck............
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.


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Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 October 11 16:12 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the information. Hannah is one of their children.

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Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 October 11 16:41 BST (UK) »
And you found them on the 1851 Census at Clover Hill in Ramsgate?
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.

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Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 October 11 17:06 BST (UK) »
Yes in 1851 they were both at Clover Hill
1861 John was onboard 'Fame' Vessel and Charlotte was at 7 Waterloo Place, Ramsgate
1871 they were both at 31 Haldies St, Ramsgate
1881 Charlotte is a Widow living at 30 Brunswick Street
she died 10 Feb 1894 at 37 Brunswick Street.

If Charlottes parents are Thomas Thompson and Hannah Bodley they married 8 Oct 1797 in Brixham and it looks like they had 6 children.

Is there more than one family of Nowell's from Brixham as there seems to be a lot of them. Are they all connected in some way?

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Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 October 11 17:55 BST (UK) »
So probably this is the registration of death: John William Nowell  age 68  Reg  Jun 1/4 1876 at Thanet [ref: 2a 482 ]

I don't know why the birth / baptism doesn't show up on findmypast and familysearch.

It was a very big family - the first connection to our family that I found is a Nicholas Nowell bap.1718, then 4 generations later 2 sisters in our family both married a Nicholas Nowell, (though for years I thought the one had married her sister's widower!)

I am sure they all connect up somewhere, but my primary interest is via the Rowse sisters rather than the Nowell cousins, which is why I posted my query, and can't really help much.  Sorry. :'(
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.

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Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 October 11 09:42 BST (UK) »
My Nowell expert has also placed your John William as the son of John & Temperance, baptised according to familysearch in 1808 as William. 

She admits that is based as much on "instinct" as research.
For your peace of mind the parish register should be checked as it may well have him with both names, or the vicar might have been working on memory alone when he wrote up the register and only remembered one name.

Certainly I would expect to find a John amongst their children, but familysearch doesn't list one.
 ???
BORCHARDT in Poland/Germany, BOSKOWITZ in Czechoslovakia, Hungary + Austria, BUSS in Baden, Germany + Switzerland, FEKETE in Hungary + Austria, GOTTHILF in Hammerstein + Berlin, GUBLER, GYSI, LABHARDT & RYCHNER in Switzerland, KONIG & KRONER in Germany, PLACZEK, WUNSCH & SILBERBERG in Poland.

Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.