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Brickwall
« on: Tuesday 20 September 11 03:21 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help with my brickwall
George Hoby b.abt 1834 London  on George's marrige to Catherine York in Manchester 18 august 1859 his father was James Hobin I am trying to find out who George's mother was and anything else on his parents,
Georges children were Jane abt 1864,John abt 1860, Mary abt 1854 ,Sarah 1857,all born in Chorlton on Medlock Lancashire found on the 1871 census
Thanks Karen
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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 September 11 04:57 BST (UK) »
hi,,are you sure of Georges birth year,,,,in the 1891 census,,,he is b 1823?

there is a George Hoby with father James in the 1841 census in Middlesex,,,he is listed as age 20,,,but the age may have been rounded down by 5 years,,,so he could be born c 1828  ?
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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 September 11 05:58 BST (UK) »
Hi
On George Hoby's Marriage certificate his age is 25
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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 September 11 07:36 BST (UK) »
1871 census has his age as 34 - so born 1837.
But daughter Mary is 17 (b 1854) and was therefore born when George was 16/17?

In 1881, George is age 45 (so b 1836).

And, as gortonboy pointed out, in 1891 he is age 69 (b 1822).

It would appear that George was economical with the truth as far as his age was concerned?

His death:
December qtr 1896
Chorlton district   vol 8c, page 524
Hoby, George    age 60 (implied year of birth 1836)
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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 05:16 BST (UK) »
Hi
Am I reading too much into Georges Marriage Certificate with his age and his fathers James name and Occupation (Shoemaker)  ??? Would George's death Certificate tell me his father or mothers name or give me any hints :-\ Karen
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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 06:00 BST (UK) »
I wonder how economical he was about his age  :-\

There's a christening at St. John, Hampstead;
George Hoby, b. 3 Apr, ch. 4 Aug 1819 to James and Sarah.
James was a Laceman.
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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 07:51 BST (UK) »
Hi
Am I reading too much into Georges Marriage Certificate with his age and his fathers James name and Occupation (Shoemaker)  ??? Would George's death Certificate tell me his father or mothers name or give me any hints :-\ Karen

English Death Certificates don't supply any information re parents  :(
And no-one had to supply proof re age, when getting married! So he could have said anything at all!  ;D
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