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Offline agasmith

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"Tyrownomight"
« on: Thursday 22 September 11 22:43 BST (UK) »
My maternal 3rd great grandfather, James Law, was born about 1830 in the "County of Tyrownomight", Ireland, before moving to Scotland.

I'm unsure where "Tyrownomight" is and I've come to a bit of dead end with my Irish ancestors.

James' father, Daniel Law, was a "Recruiting Sergeant" for the "42nd Regiment" and I'm not too sure how to progress this either.

Any help?

Thanks,

Adam

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Re: "Tyrownomight"
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 September 11 22:44 BST (UK) »
Closest to "Tyrownomight" is County Tyrone.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: "Tyrownomight"
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 September 11 13:46 BST (UK) »
to which I'd suggest Co. Tyrone Omagh

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Re: "Tyrownomight"
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 April 18 19:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Adam!
James Law is also my 3rd great grandfather. His eldest son, Daniel, is father to Robert Law, and he had my dad, Robert Law.  Dad is making a trip to Scotland the last of April to May 4th. If you live in or around Edinburgh, Falkirk or St. Andrew's, maybe you all could meet and have lunch. He and my mom are in their 80s and we are sending them on their dream vacation. I too am trying to get some information on the Irish side of the family. I will be glad to share when I find it.


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Re: "Tyrownomight"
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 April 18 16:31 BST (UK) »
Some thoughts for you

Law in just 6 civil parishes and 14 townlands in Co Tyrone listed in
1823-1837 TITHES APPLOTMENT BOOKS based upon the index work of the Irish Genealogy Hub’s listing for each parish in Northern Ireland, The relevant original books are in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast .Each entry is one liner giving head of household only. The tithes are notorious  for being biased and incomplete
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Law in 8 civil parishes and 13 Townlands with Griffiths valuation in the approx. year
1860 GRIFFITHS VALUATION  at quick www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php  then for map references and more details use http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
produces a list that is laid out by civil parish in Co Tyrone, in an attempt to narrow down the large search possible
Law, Andrew      Townland: Leboty Year: 1833   Aghalurcher
Law, Charles      Townland: Leboty Year: 1833   Aghalurcher
Law, George      Townland: Leboty Year: 1833   Aghalurcher
Law, Matthew   Townland: Drummeer Year: 1833   Aghalurcher
Law, Thomas      Townland: Drummeer Year: 1833   Aghalurcher
Law, Charles      Townland: Killmore Year: 1833   Aghalurcher
Law   Charles   Town Parks of Strabane      Camus   GV~1860   
Law   Patrick   Town Parks of Strabane      Camus   GV~1860   
Law, Mr.      Tl: Campsey Yr: 1827      Cappagh
Law, Daniel      Tl: Galboley Yr: 1827      Cappagh
Law   Matthew   Claremore            Clogher   GV~1860   
Law, James      T:    Cavanacark Y: 1825      Clogher
Law, Matthew   T:    Cavanacark Y: 1825      Clogher
Law, Matthew, Sr.   T:    Cavanacark Y: 1825      Clogher
Law, William      T: Tullyvernaw Y: 1825      Clogher
Law, John      T: Knocknacarney Y: 1825      Clogher
Law, Matthew   T: Letbeg Y: 1825         Clogher
Law   Matthew   Latbeg               Clogher   GV~1860
Law   Matthew   Lislane            Clogher   GV~1860
Law, Robert      T: Lislane Y: 1825         Clogher
Law   Matthew   Lislane            Clogher   GV~1860
Law   Stewart   Castletown            Donacavey   GV~1860   
Law   Stewart   Racpane            Donacavey   GV~1860   
Law   Stewart   Town of Fintona         Donacavey   GV~1860   
Law, John      T: Dullaghan Y: 1834         Dromore
Lawe   Irvine      Dullaghan            Dromore   GV~1860   
Lawe   Mary      Dullaghan            Dromore   GV~1860   
Law   Martha   Omagh (Town of Omagh)      Drumragh   GV~1860   map ref 88 she sublets 86,87 to John Robinson and Joseph Osborne
Law   John      Clunahill Glebe         Longfield West   GV~1860
Law, Robt.      T:    Bomacatall Y: 1826      Longfield West
Law, Saml.      T:    Bomacatall Y: 1826      Longfield West
Law, Jas.      T:    Gortnagarren Y: 1829   Pomeroy
Law, Jno.      T:    Gortnagarren Y: 1829   Pomeroy
Law, Robt.      T: Cavanakeeran Y: 1829      Pomeroy
Law   Robert   The Diamond,Pomeroy,(Cavanakeeran)   Pomeroy   GV~1860
Law   James, Jr.   Gortnagarn            Pomeroy   GV~1860   
Law   James, Sr.   Gortnagarn            Pomeroy   GV~1860   
Law   James      Ballyfatten            Urney   GV~1860   
Law   Patrick   Ballyfatten            Urney   GV~1860   

now seeing I  have one Daniel above I had a quick look at Moore and Muir in the tithes, No muirs found, leaving  241 Moor and Moore if by chance Daniel met his wife in the same parish as he lives, then her parents could be
Moore, Archd.      Tl: Termority Yr: 1827   Cappagh   Tyrone
Moore, Jas.      Tl: Lislimnahan Yr: 1827   Cappagh   Tyrone
Moore, John      Tl: Mayne Yr: 1827      Cappagh   Tyrone
Moore, John      Tl: Tatteraonity Yr: 1827   Cappagh   Tyrone
Moore, William   Tl: Cranny Yr: 1827      Cappagh   Tyrone
Moore, James      Tl: Cranny Yr: 1827      Cappagh   Tyrone and Fermanagh
Moore, Newman   Tl: Aughagallon Yr: 1827   Cappagh   Tyrone and Fermanagh
Moore, Thomas   Tl: Cranny Yr: 1827      Cappagh   Tyrone and Fermanagh

I read Omagh as a suggestion by someone living in Omaghs civil parish are
Moore, Anne      T: Clenabogan Lower Y: 1830   Drumragh   Tyrone
Moore, Joseph   T: Drumragh Y: 1830         Drumragh   Tyrone
Moore, Perry      T: Clenabogan Lower Y: 1830   Drumragh   Tyrone
that’s all I can speculate for you, unless you are very lucky its going to be a church record or similar or avery helpful person to narrow it further for you. Did his military career  merit a pension so is his career recorded somewhere?
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Re: "Tyrownomight"
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 April 18 17:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for all of that information. I think the Martha from Omagh is my best lead because after living in Scotland for a time, she returned to Ireland at some point and died in Omagh. Daniel was in the Black watch and may have died years earlier.
Again, thank you. I have much more to go on now.

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Re: "Tyrownomight"
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 April 18 17:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for all of that information. I think the Martha from Omagh is my best lead because after living in Scotland for a time, she returned to Ireland at some point and died in Omagh. Daniel was in the Black watch and may have died years earlier.
Again, thank you. I have much more to go on now.


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Re: "Tyrownomight"
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 April 18 21:07 BST (UK) »
if it’s the Martha Law I quoted to you living in MAIN STREET OMAGH
DRUMRAGH in 1860 map ref 1 88.
If you want to know more about her then look up
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/searching-valuation-revision-books
however main st has been crossed out and has market st written over it.

Omagh   -   Omagh   Drumragh   Tyrone   1860   1863   
Omagh   -   Omagh   Drumragh   Tyrone   1864   1866   
Omagh   -   Omagh   Drumragh   Tyrone   1867   1878   
Omagh   -   Omagh   Drumragh   Tyrone   1879   1881   
Omagh   -   Omagh   Drumragh   Tyrone   1879   1881   
Omagh   -   Omagh   Drumragh   Tyrone   1882   1890   
Omagh   -   Omagh   Drumragh   Tyrone   1891   1903   
Omagh   Omagh, Town of   Omagh   Drumragh   Tyrone   1860   1863
Omagh   Omagh, Town of   Omagh   Drumragh   Tyrone   1864   1866   
VAL/12/B/41/36A (1860 - 1863) she is listed at No 88 and renumbered in 1863 as no 56
VAL/12/B/41/36B (1864 - 1866) she is listed at No 56 beware 2 versions may exist of the book
VAL/12/B/41/36C (1867 - 1878) she is listed at No 56 and crossed out I didn’t check further
so my assumption is she has moved away by 1867 whether she went to Scotland or died over to you. 
or  'when' as asked by the ever patient hallmark I stop now
goodluck onwards
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Re: "Tyrownomight"
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 April 18 22:39 BST (UK) »

VAL/12/B/41/36C (1867 - 1878) she is listed at No 56 and crossed out I didn’t check further
so my assumption is she has moved away by 1867 whether she went to Scotland or died over to you.
 
or  'when' as asked by the ever patient hallmark I stop now
goodluck onwards

It's all very vague...



"James' father, Daniel Law, was a "Recruiting Sergeant" for the "42nd Regiment"....."
  Lived where? Married where? Died where?

Martha died in Omagh "sometime"..... How is this known?

 Death results for Law of Omagh..  Displaying results 1 - 16 of 16.    http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lxf/
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