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Catherine Hemus c. 1792
« on: Tuesday 24 May 11 21:09 BST (UK) »
Hi All,
I wonder if anyone can help decipher a name for me.
On 1851 for Strencham Worcs. under the family of William Bell there appears what seems like a mother in law age 58 from Pembrokeshire ( Elizabeths mother ).
It is transcribed by An*****y as Catherine Hemins but I cannot locate her 'daughter' Elizabeth age 40 and born Pembrokeshire c. 1811 ( I've tried Hemmings etc ) ,
Can anyone offer any suggestions please.
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Re: Catherine ????? 1851
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 22:08 BST (UK) »
On FindMyPast, the family is this:

Reference HO107, Piece 2045. Folio 74, Page 9
Lower Strensham, Strensham. Worcestershire

Ball, William  Head  M  25  Bricklayer  b Strensham
Ball, Elizabeth  Wife  F  40  b Pembrokeshire, Wales
Ball, Joseph C  Son  M  12  Errand Boy  b Stellarton, Worcestershire
Ball, Emily Elizabeth  Daughter  F  10  b St Peters, Worcestershire
Ball, Emily  Daughter  F  8  b Strensham
Ball, Edward  Son  M  5  b Strensham
Hemers, Catherine  Mother-in-Law  F  58  b Pembrokeshire, Wales

However, the original is very faint!


Searching FreeBMD for births in Pershore district (the registration district that includes Strensham) shows these:

March qtr 1843  Pershore  Vol 18, Page 446
Bell, Louisa

March qtr 1844 Pershore  Vol 18, Page 469
Bell, Emily

September qtr 1846 Pershire  Vol 18, Page 433
Bell, Edward
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Re: Catherine ????? 1851
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 22:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Robsdad,  on The Genealogist website it's transcribed as Hemus and I must say that's how I read the original.  But I haven't been able to find a Bell/Hemus marriage to confirm it sadly so that's no help really!

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Re: Catherine ????? 1851
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 22:18 BST (UK) »
Hi

FindMyPast have it as Hemers, doesn't look like that though, does look more like Hemins
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Re: Catherine ????? 1851
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 22:23 BST (UK) »
If its any help, Joseph Charles birth is in WOrcester:

September qtr 1838
Worcester district   Vol 18, Page 471
Bell, Joseph Charles


The only likely marriage I can find on FreeBMD is:

September qtr 1838
Worcester district   Vol 18, Page 523

Bell, William
+ and on the same page +
Hall, Elizabeth
Birlingham, Eliza
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Re: Catherine ????? 1851
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 22:27 BST (UK) »
The 1841 census is even worse! FindMyPast has it as a free view.

Reference HO107, 1206, 20/5, 4
Village, Strensham

Bell, Frances  F  65
Bell, William  M  20  born in county
Bell, Elizabeth  F  30
Bell, Joseph  M  2 born in county
Bell, Frances  F  11 months  born in county
Banister, Joshua  M  4


A more realistic age for William, as Joseph C would have been born when he was 18.
Using the age on the 1851 census would put William's age at 13?!
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Re: Catherine ????? 1851
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 22:41 BST (UK) »
To me it looks rather more like Hemus.

There is a death of a Catherine Hemus aged 82, 3rd q 1873, Pershore 6c 181  ???

She is in Pershore in 1871, RG 10 / 3064 / 67 / 12. The name looks like Hemus (transcribed as Hennes on FindMyPast)
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Re: Catherine ????? 1851
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 May 11 23:13 BST (UK) »
Yes I definitely think it's Hemus.  What looks like a dot in the surname is the beginning of the first stroke of the U, the dot over the i in Catherine is much higher.

Still can't find a marriage though  :-\

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Re: Catherine ????? 1851
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 May 11 07:21 BST (UK) »
Looking at the distribution of the surname HEMUS in 1841, it would appear to be centralisedin Worcestershire, and especially the Pershore district.

The only Catherine that matches up is here:

Reference HO107, Piece 360, Book/Folio 27, Page 14
Park House, Twyning, Gloucester

Proctor, Michael  M  68  Yeoman
Proctor, Mary  F  65
Drinkwater, Ann  F  46  Housekeeper
Barnes, Sarah  F  18  FS
Hemus, Joseph  M  53  Liv Husbandry (Livestock?)
Hemus, Catherine  F  49  FS
Price, Philip  M  19  MS

Only problem is that all are born in county (Gloucestershire)?

So it looks likely that Catherinr married a Mr Hemus in, or around, Worcestershire?
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