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Re: burial ground Bo'ness
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 29 June 17 04:09 BST (UK) »
In your other thread, you said you have his death and will - where did he die? What is the wording of the original entry of his death?

When you say he lived in Bo'ness, presumably that is the parish? Do you have a more precise abode?

Have you checked the original images on Scotland's People for all of these events?

In your other thread you say you have Agnes's death, but here you say you don't have it?  :-\
You also say you have death "certificates" for three of their children? If so, where are they buried?

Presumably you have looked in England for a record of Rowland's birth as you say both of his parents are from England. What is your source of his information? Do you know the names of his parents and whereabouts in England they were from?

Do you have an approximation of when Rowland was born? (Age at death perhaps?)

What year was his first child with Agnes born? In fact if you could list names and dates for children, that might be useful.  :)

Sorry for asking so many questions, but any answers might help with the search.  :)

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Re: burial ground Bo'ness
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 29 June 17 04:55 BST (UK) »
Ruskie,

Bo'ness (Borrowstounness) & Linlithgow were both Parishes in the County of West Lothian.

Found this post with related names etc.

Edit...forgot the link  ::)

Here it is....http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/jaques/629/

No clues to any sources of the info. sadly.

Were all the children born in Scotland & did they all marry & die in Scotland?

Records of burials may not have survived?


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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: burial ground Bo'ness
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 29 June 17 05:02 BST (UK) »
They lost around 8 children as babies, they may also be buried with them.

I'm wondering..if you know they lost 8 children, do you have names/dates/places for those deaths?

Do you know if they all died in the same area or different areas & are they all buried together or separately depending on where they died?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Jaques family from Bo'ness
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 29 June 17 20:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you for replying to my post, I will try and cover all the details I have.
Rowland Jaques (no exact date of birth found as yet) he married Agnes Mcaullah (date unknown)
But as their first child was born in 1744, I would think that they married around that time.
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Rowland and Agnes children born and died dates-

Isabel Jaques (1st Isabel) born 1744 died 1749 in Bo'ness.
Mary   Jaques (1st Mary)  born 1747 died 1749  in Bo'ness.
Isabel Jaques (2nd Isabel) born 1750 died 1761 in Bo'ness.
Mary Jaques (2nd Mary)  born 1750 died 1750  in Bo'ness .
Christian Jaques born 1752 died 1752 in Bo'ness,
James Jaques born 1752 died 1752 in Bo'ness.
Rowland Jaques (1st Rowland) born 1753 died 1753 in Bo'ness.
Agnes Jaques born 1754 Bo'ness death unknown
John Jaques born 1756 died 1757 in Bo'ness
Gwyn Von Jaques born 1757 in Bo'ness. death unknown
Christian Jaques (2nd Christian) born 1758 in Bo'ness  death unknown
Rowland Jaques (2nd Rowland) born 1759 died 1761 in Bo'ness.
Isabel Jaques (3rd Isabel) born 1760 died 1760 in Bo'ness.
Margaret Jaques born 1863 in bo'ness .death unknown
Rowland Jaques (3rd Rowland) born 1773 died 1773 in Bo'ness.
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I found a marriage certificate for Rowland Jaques and Elizabeth Morton 12th june 1731 at Port Glasgow stating Rowland was a tide waiter, I am not sure if this is Rowland's first marriage or Rowland's parents.But as Rowland's first child with Agnes was born in 1744, I think he married twice.
Rowland Jaques died 3rd july 1773 in Bo'ness  (land surveyor custom house)
I have his will from scotlands people, but no age or a/d given.
Agnes Mcalauh/ mcaullah / I thought I had her correct birth and death,but discovered it was the wrong Agnes.
I have all the children's birth and most of the deaths, all from Scotland's People.
They do not say where they were buried or which parish they lived in, they only state Bo'ness as place of birth/death.
I have also found several Jaques families from similar time /dates living in Yorkshire England, who may be Rowland's parents /grandparents but no real positive proof as yet.
Rowland and Agnes's daughter Agnes Jaques born 1754 was married to James Strachan in St Cuthberts Edinburgh 12th november 1778. The marriage certificate does not give Agnes's home a/d only her father's name and occupation. It states that her husband James (cpt clerk on his majesty's war ship the Alfred) was residing in Crighton street, Edinburgh.





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Re: Jaques family from Bo'ness
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 29 June 17 22:41 BST (UK) »
From familysearch Agnes' surname seems to be Mcaully which has many variants.

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Jaques family from Bo'ness
« Reply #14 on: Friday 30 June 17 04:29 BST (UK) »
Yes, Agnes surname  is listed in Scotland's People with several different spellings also

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Re: burial ground Bo'ness
« Reply #15 on: Friday 30 June 17 04:39 BST (UK) »
Hello, I am still looking for resting place in Bo'ness of Rowland and Agnes Jaques (nee mcallah/ mcaulah)

I can't find anything on SP with those spellings for Agnes.

Can you tell us where those spellings were found please?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Jaques family from Bo'ness
« Reply #16 on: Friday 30 June 17 04:44 BST (UK) »
Yes, Agnes surname  is listed in Scotland's People with several different spellings also

It may be an idea to list those to save duplication of effort so people know where/when (occasion) & by what name she was to help further?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Jaques family from Bo'ness
« Reply #17 on: Friday 30 June 17 06:14 BST (UK) »
The British Newspaper archive is quite interesting showing the distribution of the Jaques surname in the 1700 - 1749 period in England and Scotland, to me the frequency appears high around Newcastle-apon-tyne in England. Also some Yorkshire Jaques.

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk

The personal name Gwyn is interesting to me as it seems Welsh. Wondering if the father came up from somewhere like Leeds in Yorkshire or Gwyn was named after someone he admired?
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)