John Thomas Payne (Resolved)

[jellyj2010]

Hi to all 
Hopefully I'm doing this right, this is my first post 
I am researching my Mum's side of the tree, and have hit a real brick wall when it comes to her Father's side.  He is listed on his own wedding (to my Grandmother, in 1954) as being named JOHN THOMAS PAYNE and being born in 1934 or 1935, and his address is listed as The New Arcade, Arcade Chambers, Sunderland and his Father is listed as GEORGE PAYNE whose profession was caretaker (I think, the writing is a bit hard to read!)
I have searched all sorts of records and come up with nothing.  I don't even know if the Payne's came from Sunderland originally, just that they lived there in 1954.
Any help anyone can offer would be greatly received and appreciated!!
Kelly 

[lizdb]

Presumably he is deceased.
But did he have any brothers or sisters (your mum's aunts and uncles) who can help suggest where he came from?
Is your mum still laive -can she remember anything about her Dad?

[Isobelruss]

There appears to be 2 John T Payne born 1934 mmn Devereux and 1935 mmn Gibbs

Theres a marriage for a Frederick G S Payne to a Marie L Gibbs 1933 Birmingham

Do any of these names mean anything to you

[lizdb]

You beat me to it, Isobel
I was just going to say that if the year of birth is accurate, there are only two possibles in the birth index, one in Birmingham and one in MArylebone.

The Birmingham one appears to have a Dad named Frederick.

I know guessing at conclusions from the indexes isnt fool proof , but as Isobal said do any of these ring any bells?

[Isobelruss]

Where did they marry.I can only see 2 marriages John T in Chatham Kent and Thomas J  in Bournmouth Dorset both 1954

[lizdb]

Sunderland I guess, if that was his address.

I cant see the marriage either!

[stanmapstone]

The marriage of of a George Payne and Elllen A. Rigden was registered in Sunderland June ¼ 1920. The birth of a John Payne was registered in Sunderland Dec ¼ 1934, mother Rigden. Sunderland Registrar's Index http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1399, he has been wrongly transcribed as Jean on Ancestry.

Stan

[Isobelruss]

I didnt look far enough back.

[stanmapstone]

JOHN THOMAS PAYNE did not marry in Sunderland in 1954
Stan