Immigrant to Sydney – John SIMPSON

[2011E]

http://www.familysearch.org/ENG/Library/fhlcatalog/mainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&columns=undefined&titleno=512618&disp=Pioneers+of+a+great+Valley&first=undefined&last=undefined

I would like to make sure that the testimony found on the above site is true by looking at a few records - could someone people take a look at the following two records for me

Unassisted Immigrant Passenger

John Simpson
Sydney, New South Wales


John E Simpson = Susan Baker


Thanks.

[kmart66]

Hi

The familysearch link says he arrived in 1825, if that is the case he won't be in the 1826-1922 lists.

Marriage 1827, Sydney, NSW

Kevin

[2011E]

Of course..I didn't even notice that.

[2011E]

So, that's all there is there? Is there is document on there which could confirm he was born in Scotland, and departed London, and arrived in Sydney?

[kmart66]

Hi

All it gives are the names, date and registration district.

Kevin

[2011E]

Sure, thanks - I wasn't aware of that.

[Dundee]

NSW BDM's are free to search online at http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births

They are by no means complete for all events, especially during the early years.  Civil registration commenced in 1856 so before that you are looking at baptisms, marriages and burials and not a lot of info is provided.  Details here http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

Some, but not all immigration indexes are available for NSW on the archives site, but very few have survived for the time you are interested in.  http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-online

Newspapers are a better bet and I do see a mention of a Mr SIMPSON arriving on the William Shand in 1825.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

I would consult the book to find the author's sources because it may be from private documents in their possession.  You can get it on inter library loan from the NLA.

Debra 

[~MERLIN~]

Information from "Shipping Arrivals & Departures Sydney 1788 to 1825" by J S Cumpston.

The William Shand, ship of 284 tons, crew of 14, arrived in Sydney on 3rd August 1825 under Captain Alexander from England calling at St Jago (Cape Verde islands), Hobart Town with a cargo of Merchandise. It left again for Singapore on 30 August 1825 under Captain Kenn.

It seems that it was also entered in registers as "William Strand" & also made trips to Sydney in 1822 and 1824 from London.

[majm]

Hi there,

If your chap travelled steerage, in the 1820's to NSW ie before there was an active encouragement for immigration plans, then it is unlikely for his name to be found on passenger lists BUT .... if he applied for a Grant of Land, particularly during the 1825-1828 years then he may well have applied for "A Grant of Land Without Purchase" in which case, his application for that land would include details of the ship on which he arrived, as well as a full detailed list of his assets/capital etc upon which he could then apply to the Governor/Lands Board to be allocated acres in proportion to his capital.    Those applications (even when declined) are found on the reels at the NSW SRO, and are indexed online under the heading CSreLand  .... ie Colonial Secretarys Letters regarding Land Applications.   http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=14

Cheers,  JM