MASLEN Family Tree

[Sandidel]

Thank you for that I had not realized, but yes there is a big gap Anns Birth 1783 and Marraiage 1824. But any help will be very much appreciated.

Thanks again
Sandidel

[touchofmange]

hi i'm looking for the birth of elizabeth maslen/maslin who married thomas perry apprx 1830. 

copied from my perry thread:

his wife elizabeth maslen or maslin depending on source, bn nth newnton
the dates for her birth i need to clarify.  censuses say abt 1808. fam search says chr elizabeth maslin nov 3rd 1808 nth newnton. parents john and grace. this also ties in with chr jane maslin 17th july 1814 to same place and parents as elizabeth. Jane also appears in the same household as thomas and elizabeth for the 1841 census.

Then i get the parish cd's for devizes area and i search for elizabeth maslin:
1807 oct 4  D    John & Grasion (bt sarah) charlton st p.
1809 apr 30  D  John & Grace  Nth Newnton (also replicated for Mary maslin so may have been twins)

the john and grasion/grace is interesting and i can't help thinking they may be the same. I'm using the baptism cd's but why would that be different from the christenings on fam search??  What can i do from here to sort out elizabeth?

punkah1 can you shed any light on that?
appreciate any help thanks

[punkah1]

Hello, sorry I cannot help at the moment.  I am currently reconstructing my tree.  I am positive that I have seen the details somewhere.  I will kepp this in mind as well as contact some peopke I know in England for some help.

There have been many duplications and incorrect spellings in the records.  This can cause major problems for research.

I would be prepared to state that Graison is a mispelling.

Regards
Punkah 1.

[punkah1]

Hi again,

Appears that name was recorded on marriage register as Elizabeth MASLING.  Found record of Marriage to Thomas PERRY.

Marriage recorded in England, Marriages, 1538-1973 Held at  St Thomas,Portsmouth, Hampshire, England on 2nd January 1831


groom's name: Thomas Perry 
groom's birth date: 
groom's birthplace: 
groom's age: 
bride's name: Elizabeth Masling 
bride's birth date: 
bride's birthplace: 
bride's age: 
marriage date: 02 Jan 1831 
marriage place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England 
groom's father's name: 
groom's mother's name: 
bride's father's name: 
bride's mother's name: 
groom's race: 
groom's marital status: 
groom's previous wife's name: 
bride's race: 
bride's marital status: 
bride's previous husband's name: 
indexing project (batch) number: I04144-6 
system origin: England-Easy 
source film number: 1596260 
reference number: p1 no1 


Citing this Record

"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFP3-9V3 : accessed 04 Dec 2012), Thomas Perry and Elizabeth Masling, ; citing Portsmouth, Hampshire, England, reference p1 no1; FHL microfilm 1596260.


Confirmed when searched under name of Perry same source

Re birth of Elizabeth Maslin/Maslen/Masling found this


name: Elizabeth Maslin 
gender: Female 
baptism/christening date: 04 Sep 1807 
baptism/christening place: Charlton St Peter, Wiltshire, England 
birth date: 
birthplace: 
death date: 
name note: 
race: 
father's name: John Maslin 
father's birthplace: 
father's age: 
mother's name: Grasion  (Note the spelling)
mother's birthplace: 
mother's age: 
indexing project (batch) number: C15279-1 
system origin: England-ODM 
source film number: 1279347 
reference number: 

Attachments

Regards

Punkah1

[punkah1]

Can throw another spanner into the tree

See the attachments.

I can also confirm that Mary is a twin and there were several other children born

[garstonite]

Hiya Punkah ...you say Ann Maslen was the first born to Robert and Susannah in c 1783
you might want to check this out
parents are Robert Maslen and Susanna
they married 17th april 1780 - was it in Woodborough ??
if so Thomas may have been their first born

Thomas Maslen christened 6th aug 1780 at Woodborough,Wiltshire
Mary Maslen christened 18th feb 1782 at Woodborough, Wiltshire

allan

[touchofmange]

Hi again,

Appears that name was recorded on marriage register as Elizabeth MASLING.  Found record of Marriage to Thomas PERRY.

Marriage recorded in England, Marriages, 1538-1973 Held at  St Thomas,Portsmouth, Hampshire, England on 2nd January 1831

groom's name: Thomas Perry 
bride's name: Elizabeth Masling 
marriage date: 02 Jan 1831 
marriage place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England   
indexing project (batch) number: I04144-6 
system origin: England-Easy 
source film number: 1596260 
reference number: p1 no1

Re birth of Elizabeth Maslin/Maslen/Masling found this

name: Elizabeth Maslin 
gender: Female 
baptism/christening date: 04 Sep 1807 
baptism/christening place: Charlton St Peter, Wiltshire, England 
father's name: John Maslin 
mother's name: Grasion  (Note the spelling)
indexing project (batch) number: C15279-1 
system origin: England-ODM 
source film number: 1279347 

hi thanks for that, yes i had seen most of those and the mary twin or double christening.  There are a few things that stand out, firstly that the masling record is after the births i'm looking for, sarah ann perry bn to thomas & elizabeth dec 25 1829 @charlton st peter, however the portsmouth link may resurface as coincidently that's where my grandfather and mother were born, so possibly a family link there. There is also a john  perry to allocate to parents, he's on the 1841 census (aged 14) with them, and is even older than sarah. This would also make them very young if married before that or even having a child. I suspect he is a nephew. There are two other john perry's born close to that date and locally but the parents are wrong and i have allocated the john's to the rightful family.

secondly as you attached to your second post the maslin children are born to different dates (except jane) than appear on the parish baptism cd's for some reason. Think the familysearch records for elizabeth, mary and jane to john and grace @nth newnton are all correct and dates tally with the censuses.  I've highlighted the details in my earlier post for clarity and they now appear red.

I could find no marriage for john and grace or grasion for that matter.  I found a gracian edwards marrying somebody else on the parish cd abt 1809. 

other than that i'm still stuck lol.

[punkah1]

Hiya Punkah ...you say Ann Maslen was the first born to Robert and Susannah in c 1783
you might want to check this out
parents are Robert Maslen and Susanna
they married 17th april 1780 - was it in Woodborough ??
if so Thomas may have been their first born

Thomas Maslen christened 6th aug 1780 at Woodborough,Wiltshire
Mary Maslen christened 18th feb 1782 at Woodborough, Wiltshire

allan

Allan, Sorry for delay, in responding. You were correct and I have just amended my tree.

Regards
Ralph

[miggs 191]

Hi all,
I have not seen these postings before and find them very interesting. Some of you will know my tag name from other listings !
I have a Louisa Elizabeth Maslen born about 1821 living in Devizes. In the 1841 census she is working in The Castle Devizes (another family link to the Grace family) by 1846 she has married John Perry of The Pelican and Southbroom Devizes.
My problem, their marriage certificate gives her father's name as George Maslen grocer. She often refers to her place of birth as Covent Garden. I can find her sister Sarah who was adopted aged around nine but can not find her. I have copies of letters written to and from solicitors numbering well over a hundred,I have wills and indentures too but can not find her birth.
I am suspicious ( due to information in the legal papers) that she may have changed her name. Therefore I tried looking for an Elizabeth Maslen with a George as father. There was such a child born about 1820 in a village outside Devizes with George as father and Sarah as mother. Incidentally Louisa Elizabeth's sister was Sarah.  Does any one with Maslen information have these names in their research ? Could the above ramblings ring any bells with anyone ? By coincidence I see that someone is referring to Chandler too. We think that Sarah Grace who ran the Castle in Devizes was a Chandler before she remarried. All ideas welcome !