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Re: Scoullar
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 October 11 10:00 BST (UK) »
If you go back to the Dunedin cemetery database, you'll see the following burial of baby :
MAHON - Baby - aged 1 week
Died:   4 April 1876
Buried :   Northern Cemetery
Last address:   Flag Swamp, Otago
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[Shares plot with two others.   This may be a pauper's grave ?]
Maybe this babe is a possibility ??
  ~  Lu

Flag Swamp between Waikouiaiti and Palmerston is miles too far away to be called Dunedin in those times and even now.   Everything else seems a likely possibility.    Cannot find any item on Papers past connecting Mahon with Flag Swamp

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Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone

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Re: Scoullar
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 October 11 11:49 BST (UK) »
"David Hughan" MAHON  - Parents Mary and Robert MAHON.

The only 1876 MAHON birth registration is for a child named "David Hughan" -- parents :  Mary and Robert MAHON.
Sadly this child died, aged 16 months in 1877.
He is buried at Dunedin with a number of other family members (including a Robert and Mary).
[It's unknown if this couple were also the parents of Mary MAHON.]
  ~ Lu

MAHON Robert 21y [x-his mark]   married HUGHAN Mary 18y    05 Feb  1856   at First Church   Dunedin

SH
Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone

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Re: Scoullar
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 October 11 12:52 BST (UK) »
The only 1876 MAHON birth registration is for a child named "David Hughan" -- parents :  Mary and Robert MAHON.

Sadly this child died, aged 16 months in 1877.
He is buried at Dunedin with a number of other family members (including a Robert and Mary).
[It's unknown if this couple were also the parents of Mary MAHON.]
 ~ Lu

Robert & Mary in the Cemeteries record match age-wise to the Robert & Mary marriage in First Church

Cemeteries record for this family have addresses in Halfway Bush for MAHONs Alexander,   Catherine Gillespie,  Gordon Ewen,  and James
Also shows  Jessie GILLESPIE a native of Halfway Bush (Now Western and highest suburb of Dunedin City)

Robert's last Address was Deep Stream [a remote rural Address half way to Middlemarch]
Mary MAHON nee HUGHAN would have been 38 when David Hughan MAHON was born.

My best guess therefore is that David Hughan MAHON buried in the family plot was son of Robert and Mary and the likely son of Joseph SCOULLAR and Mary MAHON is the one buried in the Northern Cemetery.   This would tie in with the death at 1 week and the Court case for Confinement Costs alone.

SH

Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone


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« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 October 11 13:51 BST (UK) »
A marriage of Mary MAHON

MAHON Mary McNey 20y   MAHON married HARNEISS Barton 22y   27 Jun   1877 recorded at Kaikorai Presbyterian Church Dunedin
http://www.presbyterian.org.nz/archives/synodregionmarriages.htm

This appears to be the NZ BDM Index record
1877/1218   Mary Macnee    Mahon    Barton    Harneifs

and these appear to be children of that marriage

1880/16514   Harneiss        Robert     Mary   Barton
1882/8668   Harneiss    Kate Gillespie    Mary   Barton
1886/706    Harneiss        James        Mary   Barton
1888/12304   Harneiss    Mary Hughan Mary   Barton
1890/18365   Harneiss    George Barton Mary   Barton
1893/4792   Harneiss    David Hughan Mary   Barton
1894/15269   Harneiss    Olive Lilian    Mary   Barton
1896/6387   Harneiss      Wilhelmina    Mary   Barton
1899/3517   Harneiss    Walter Fraser Sherriffs    Mary   Barton
1900/15173   Harneiss    Jeffery Alexander    Mary   Barton

The maiden name of Mary MAHON nee HUGHAN [Grandmother of above] seems to tie in  Mary HARNEISS nee MAHON [Mother of above ] as a Daughter of Robert & Mary.

Maybe after her unhappy episode with Joseph SCOULLAR  Mary settled down next year with Barton HARNEISS ?

That could mean David Hughan MAHON was the missing illegitimate child after all !

SH




         
Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone

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Re: Scoullar
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 22 October 11 12:59 BST (UK) »

Flag Swamp between Waikouiaiti and Palmerston is miles too far away to be called Dunedin in those times and even now.   Everything else seems a likely possibility. Cannot find any item on Papers past connecting Mahon with Flag Swamp

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But nobody's calling it Dunedin.  :D

And the absence of a MAHON connection with Flag Swamp, doesn't mean that the young Mary wasn't there.


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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 22 October 11 13:37 BST (UK) »

...   and the likely son of Joseph SCOULLAR and Mary MAHON is the one buried in the Northern Cemetery.   This would tie in with the death at 1 week and the Court case for Confinement Costs alone.

SH

Already covered in replies 4 and 5 ... but nowhere is it mentioned that the child was "a son".   [The court case doesn't refer to a "child or baby", it speaks only of Mary's confinement.]

In 1879 there is a further birth recorded of a Hannah Jane MAHON to parents Mary and Robert.   [Very possibly this same Otago couple ?   And not unusual in that era of large families for the eldest daughter to be having children whilst her mother is also still producing them. ]


That could mean David Hughan MAHON was the missing illegitimate child after all !

SH


David Hughan MAHON - son of Mary and Robert MAHON, was born on 15 July 1876 -- which is after the date of the case concerning the confinement costs.

   ~  Lu