Author Topic: Lost Aunt Mary Thomson Turner born 1908  (Read 13233 times)

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Re: Lost Aunt
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 07 January 12 23:36 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ::)

Hi Sandra;  "WOW",,I can't believe it,aunt Mary working for the'Carnegie's'
That would have been a feather in her cap for sure,,,she made trips back
to see her family every year for a number of them,,guess she was paid
well in those days,,,,
When I was a kid growing up in Scot.we were reminded we were NOT
the 'Carnegie's' ,, ::)
My mother had a cousin who was a Butler in NY around 1925-30 named
Archibald Backhouse,his wife a maid,Jean Wilson Backhouse,we got told
stories how they went to 'Bermuda' for winter's,,,,

Can you see the names of any other servants where you found aunt Mary  ???
I knew Andrew/C was Scottish so I'll give a look at their site,,,mucho thanks

Kind regards;
Janey; :)






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Re: Lost Aunt
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 07 January 12 23:45 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Lost Aunt
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 07 January 12 23:55 GMT (UK) »
My mother had a cousin who was a Butler in NY around 1925-30 named
Archibald Backhouse,his wife a maid,Jean Wilson Backhouse,we got told
stories how they went to 'Bermuda' for winter's,,,,


Can see a WW2 Draft for Archibald Backhouse born 26th May 1888 Scotland and residing at 21 East 79 th NY.
Employer Orville Davies 1775 Broadway NY

An Archibald Backhouse (retired) with that same birth date travelled back to the UK in 1956 to 135 Hebden Rd. West Derby. Liverpool.

Archibald Backhouse
Born 26 th may 1888 and died October 1968
Last Residence: 10009  New York.
SSN was issued in New York (1962)


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Re: Lost Aunt
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 08 January 12 01:34 GMT (UK) »
 :)

 Hi Sandra;   That is our "Archie" alright,he was my Mother's first cousin,
although he was too old we heard he had to register for the 'Draft' in
NY,,,,,I didn't have a death date for him so thanks a bunch for that,I'll
fill in the TREE,,,,,

I think aunt Mary arrived in NY in May/1930,,would the 1930 Census
have already been taken,, ??? I wondered if the Carnegie Mansion
would have been her first position,,,

I looked at those census sites you gave and see what a number of
servants they had,,but it is a huge mansion,,, ::)

Thanks again Sandra,if you ever find anymore info on aunt Mary would
appreciate it as always,,,

Kind regards;
Janey; :)

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Re: Lost Aunt
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 January 12 02:45 GMT (UK) »
April 1st was the date of the 1930 Census, so Mary would have missed it.  The 1940 Census comes out this April, so maybe that will give you some more information.

On the Social Security Death Index, there are lots of women named Mary with that birthdate.  Out of them, the only one with a last residence in New York City was Mary Ryan, died Apr. 1985, last residence Brooklyn, New York, zip code 11215, Social Security number issued in New York before 1951.  There are a few other Marys listed with that birth date who lived in towns relatively near New York City & died in the mid-80's.

The SSDI also has another Mary Ryan with a last residence in Brooklyn, who was born in 1907 and also died in Apr. 1985.  Just mentioning that in case someone finds an obituary/death notice for a Mary Ryan and it's unclear if she's your Mary Turner.

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Re: Lost Aunt
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 08 January 12 16:14 GMT (UK) »
 :)

Thanks a big bunch Sandra and Shelly for all your fantastic help with
my request,you guy's are the greatest,,,,,
I will be waiting on the 1940 US Census this coming Apr hoping it
may give me a clue to Mary if she was still at the mansion.,,,,
I do know from family history she never made any trips to Scot.after
WW2 started,we heard she became a citizen mid-late 1940's,,,she had
an uncle Hugh Forrester Thomson out in Kearney,NJ. relating her to
the Thomson's,we thought her middle-name was Thomson,,my mother
was a Thomson also,we came to Canada in 1952 and as families go lost
touch with a lot of 'the clan',,, :'( in those days families could not afford
to visit relatives even in USA
Aunt Mary's father died Scot 1967 and her mother 1975 and far as we
know she never went home for their funeral,,,

My thanks again and I'll keep digging if I  find anything on Mary will
keep ya posted,,

Kind regards;
Janey; :)

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Re: Lost Aunt
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 08 January 12 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I've checked out the Scotlands People site for you. The 1911 Scottish Census shows your aunt Mary living with her parents Daniel and Bela and her older siblings Katie, George and Nellie in Partick. Daniel Turner is a joiner in the shipyards.

Hope this is helpful. You might be able to trace descendants of George Turner maybe?

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Re: Lost Aunt
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 08 January 12 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janeygee,

Came across an Obituary announcement for Archibald Backhouse. New York Times  - 6 th October 1968

Backhouse - Archibald Backhouse, devoted husband of Jane (nee Wilson).  Reposing at the Andrett Funeral Home, 353 2 nd Avnue, New York City. (at 20 th Street) until Tuesday at 2 pm.  Religious and Masonic services, Monday 8 pm
Interment Maple Grove Cemetery.

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Re: Lost Aunt
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 08 January 12 19:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janey,

New York Times - 11 October 1979

Backhouse - Jean (nee Wilson) at Chatham NJ on October 9th 1979, formerly of Stuyvesant. New York.  devoted widow of Archibald Backhouse.  Also survives by several Nieces and Nephews.  Graveside service at Maple Grove Cemetery, Kew Gardens, Queens on Wednesday 17th October 1979 at 11 am.

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