Is Horris.. George NELSON

[dalek39]

Dear Sasha...thanks for that..I've thought of adoption..but finding this record of a Horris Nelson..born in Adelaide..christened in 1889 same place as the other children made me wonder..I have been onto SAGHS and they cant find any record of a birth for either George or Horris..maybe he was born elswhere, but christened in Adelaide..  I don't have much to go on other that a newspaper iten (Trove SA) which mentions both the brothers in their mothers death/funeral notice..  I seem to have hit that brick wall, and SA records are as hard to get as hens teeth unles you pay big time...and where do you stop, other than rob the bank of england (jokiing)

[SASHAR]

Depending on the year of Mary NELSON's death, you may be able to get a copy of her death certificate giving more information on her children.

If your are outside SA this link may help:-
http://gravesecrets.weebly.com/adelaide-bdm-free-transcriptions.html

or this ( a fee does apply but cheaper than purchasing original certificate):-
http://www.saghs.org.au/index.html

As I've said, it all depends on the year of death as to what info. is given on certificate:-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=368744.0

Hope that helps,
Sashar

[dalek39]

Thanks Sasha...have all that info on Death Certificate etc..only mentions children of Mary, as in Popsie (Mary Jane) Rose, Nellie.. Nance..Florrie..George  and Les... She died on 25 May. 1930..age 82...James Nelson died  28 Jul. 1924..age 83..Both are buried at West Terrace. Adelaide.
I have contacted SAGHS, and they can't find any records either birth or death foe a George Nelson..only Leslie...though I do have a birth record on New Family Search for a Horris Nelson..parents Mary and James Nelson, christened 1899 at the same church as all the others.
I understand how difficult this thread is.. but hopeful that someone may be able to come up with something..I have tried everything else that I can..so if its a brick wall, maybe we should complete it..put it in the "too hard basket"   

[dalek39]

I would like to complete this thread...Dalek

[dalek39]

My apologies to all ..I have been "off-line" for some time, and decided to take up the Horris Nelson saga again...forgetting I had completed it some time ago...I received notification today, the thread had been moved.. I was unaware that I had to use the old thread, I was not told .,,I would now like to continue on where I left off, if some kind soul is prepared to help me...
Since my last thread..I have discovered that James and Mary Nelson had two sons. as well as five daughters....George and Leslie...Les born 1899 Adelaide SA...married at 26 to Hazel May Brown..24 Jan. St Mary Magdalene Church ..Adelaide. SA

My problem is that I can't find any mention of George Nelson. birth date or otherwise...
I did find a Horris Nelson on F/S..with a christening date 11 Jul 1889, the same  date as James registered his other children..same church. etc.
but I can find no record of this Horris anywhere else...

[dalek39]

continued... On my last post, which was since moved by Aghadowey, It was mentioned that maybe Horris was mistaken for Florrie..my grandmother (Flora) and that my GGreatgrandfather registered all his children at the same time.... but it did state on the record that Horris was a male...
From my searching, Horris does not exist..George either....., but it was stated on Mary's (their mother) death notice she was the loving mother of Pops, (Mary Jane) Rose.(Emily Rose) Nellie, Nance (Annie) Florrie (Flora) and George and Les.....These siblings seem to be in order of birth from my records...so.. I can't obtain a birth certificate to prove George's existance without a DOB...any suggestions..please...Dalex

[SASHAR]

Hi Dale,
I can't help you with finding George but I believe Horace may have been the son of Peter NELSON/NELSEN and Elizabeth ELDRIDGE born 8.10.1888 at Reefton Heights, Nairne Dist of SA.  This is that Horace's marriage record which indicates Horace was born c1889:-

Horace James NELSEN aged 35, married 21.6.1924 at Salvation Army Citadel, Adelaide, Elizabeth Lillian HAINS aged 34.
Neither were previously married.   Father of Horace:  Peter NELSEN     Father of Elizabeth:  Henry HAINS

I realise it doesn't explain your previous find as below, but I believe information on Family Search is not from official records which may mean information is not always correct:-
.though I do have a birth record on New Family Search for a Horris Nelson..parents Mary and James Nelson, christened 1899 at the same church as all the others.

It may also help you to search:-
http://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html

Regards,
Sashar

[dalek39]

Thanks Sasha..you are a gem...I will get onto that site and see what I can find...I believe Horris was an error, but..have to check it out..This family were full of surprises...many thanks.. Dale.

[Essie]

Hi Dale

I noticed from the marriage record that Leslie was aged 26 when he married in 1925 so born c1899. Now Mary was then aged 51, and though not impossible to still have children, it was a fair gap between Flora and the two youngest 'sons'.

Have you considered the fact that both George and Leslie may have been illegitimate children of either the elder daughters of James and Mary?  Often such children were brought up by grandparents and believed them to be their actual parents, and that may explain why the two boys were not registered as children of James and Mary.

Essie