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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 22 April 12 22:57 BST (UK) »
Dear Robyn  Thank you for your suggestions...worth looking at.. and with me I am the only older generation of this family left, so no one to ask...
You are so right ..re James Nelson..He was a convict, transported to Perth WA for 10 yrs ,,While stationed in Malta abt 1858/9 he shot at his supierior officer... he was 18 at the time.. (see James Nelson thread)  so you can understand why, to me, this family is worth investigating with that sort of history...so much "karma" and having two sons , who I can't find, makes it rather frustrating...
It did state on Mary Nelsons (mother)death notice she was the mother of George and Les....but thats not proof I know...
I was informed yesterday, by SA records dept..that there are no records on the SA BDM for either George Nelson or Leslie Nelson..so this may mean they were born elsewhere...England??.or adopted.or whatever.... 
and without DOB etc makes this quite difficult..but,.. I know I am not alone there...thank you for your help....much appreciated...Dale.


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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 22 April 12 23:17 BST (UK) »
Have you looked as suggested earlier to see if the two boys were the Illegitimate sons of of Pops, (Mary Jane) Rose.(Emily Rose) Nellie, Nance (Annie) Florrie (Flora).
 ???
Their names may not be Nelson however. But their mothers name would show, possibly not the fathers.

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #22 on: Monday 23 April 12 00:25 BST (UK) »
HI

http://www.genealogysa.org.au/?option=com_search&ref=search&id=2&s=bmVsc29u&g=aA==&c=&y=&r=MA==
has an
1955 death for a Horace James Nelson
1969 death for a Horace George Nelson.

might be worth digging dee p an dpurchasing these!!


Robyn

 
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #23 on: Monday 23 April 12 00:41 BST (UK) »
Neil...Yes I thought of that..but where do I start..any suggestions...Dale

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #24 on: Monday 23 April 12 01:26 BST (UK) »
I would definitely be getting a copy of the Horace George Nelson first and see if it has any direct connection.  That's a really good pickup Robyn ;D

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #25 on: Monday 23 April 12 01:45 BST (UK) »
Yes I agree...will do that.. been onto Trove..Adelaide..SA looking for any Nelson family notice.. have to give eyes a rest now..crosseyed....funny thing..I found Mary Nelson death notice, but nothing for James Nelson..there could be a hint there as to his children.. He died 28 Jul 1924..Queen St. Adelaide..buried at WTC...strange I can't find any notice for him...he died before Mary, who died at the same address..buried together..so not likely to be seperated... I know certificates are the way to go, but there has to be limits to the pocket..will do if no other way...Dale.

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #26 on: Monday 23 April 12 07:03 BST (UK) »
Dale

http://www.centennialpark.org/
Horace George Nelson aged 75 in 1969 last abode  Torrens Park
Horace Nelson aged 70 in 1961 last abode in BC Canada
creamtion record detailss also given.

http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/OurCemeteries.aspx
WTC also has intermentsf for  Ellen and Mary Jane Nelson in the same grave ages seem appropriate.

It might be worth contacting teh cemetry to see what information they are allowed to let you have.

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 00:25 BST (UK) »
Robyn...I have been in touch with WTC and have photo's of the graves, and the info that Mary Jane and Ellen (daughters) are buried with the parents...  so thanks for your thought there...
I am coming to the conclusion that George and Leslie Nelson are either adopted or Illigitimate children, as Mary (mother) would have been 51 at the time of their "supposed" births...not impossible ..but doubtful...
I also looked at that site you gave me on SA BDM's online..and there are quite a few George Nelsons born around the time, so, makes it hard to check all with certificates of proof... though I have sent off for one, as advised...waiting for that reply.....
I have found through Ancestry, James Nelsons greatgrandaughter, like me, the daughter of my grans brother, Leslie...who I have been in contact, who..lives not far from me...wonder of wonders..and she does not know anything of this family unfortunately,  and is very interested to find out.

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 00:30 BST (UK) »
continued.....I am very sorry..to all..that this thread has been such a long and difficult one...and at times all over the place...but..I am not an expert at genealogy ;D and with soooo much info its not hard to get confused..
I think I will have to be grateful for what I have achieved, but..there is one other source..and thats to find James Nelson's enlistment records...which I have already looked into ..no feedback as yet..now ..what I want to know, without upsetting anybody, do I go onto the Military thread..or do I stay with this one...or do I just  fade away ;D ;)Dale x

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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 00:53 BST (UK) »
Dale

What conflict are you looking at for JAmes war service and what branch?

http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/pre_first_world_war/person.asp?p=473489

 is a good starting point.

A James Nelson severd in the navy in China 1900-1901

Horace George Nelson of Adelaide  served in WW1 mother Elizabeth so not your man.
http://www.naa.gov.au/index.aspx
and you can access for free digitial copies of the service records.


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The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany