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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 21 April 12 04:54 BST (UK) »
Essie...WOW...never thought of that...interesting...I did notice that James  registered most of his children on 11 Jul 1889..so did that mean when the boys were born he just didn't bother to register them...or as someone mentioned, another theory..is they may have been the children of his brother..would love to know if he had a brother here in Aust.....I gather he would have back in Ireland..can't even get records from there due to the civil war...seems this family stays a mystery..unless I can dig up (pardon the pun) some concrete evidence....
The six year gap between Flora  and Henry is a mystery..what happened there..sounds like an Agatha Christy, eh?
I even tried the Adelaide papers, Trove.., to see if there was anything there..found that they lived at 11 Queen St.Adelaide..infact that is the address where James and Mary died ...There is absolutely no one left in my family to ask...I am it... ;D I will keep hoping that something may come up..many thanks for you assistance...Dale.

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 22 April 12 09:40 BST (UK) »
Hi,
The gap between births may have been caused by miscarriages or still births.

The possibilty that Horis/Horace was an illegitimate grandchild or a fostered child of another family (related or not) should also be considered.

My fathers Aunty Annie the eldest of his father's siblings tunred out to be an unrelated fostered child. Took me 5 years to find her birth, right year, wrong surname, followed through with her marriage (twice) and death certificates  eventually when I had gathered it all my uncle (aged 85) said everyone knew Aunty Annie was adopted  ::)

In another of the families I was researching there was a 5 year gap between their marriage and the birth of the first of 12 children!!!

It seems he had broken the laws and been gaoled for 5 years!!!!!

good luck

Robyn

The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany


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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 22 April 12 22:57 BST (UK) »
Dear Robyn  Thank you for your suggestions...worth looking at.. and with me I am the only older generation of this family left, so no one to ask...
You are so right ..re James Nelson..He was a convict, transported to Perth WA for 10 yrs ,,While stationed in Malta abt 1858/9 he shot at his supierior officer... he was 18 at the time.. (see James Nelson thread)  so you can understand why, to me, this family is worth investigating with that sort of history...so much "karma" and having two sons , who I can't find, makes it rather frustrating...
It did state on Mary Nelsons (mother)death notice she was the mother of George and Les....but thats not proof I know...
I was informed yesterday, by SA records dept..that there are no records on the SA BDM for either George Nelson or Leslie Nelson..so this may mean they were born elsewhere...England??.or adopted.or whatever.... 
and without DOB etc makes this quite difficult..but,.. I know I am not alone there...thank you for your help....much appreciated...Dale.

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 22 April 12 23:17 BST (UK) »
Have you looked as suggested earlier to see if the two boys were the Illegitimate sons of of Pops, (Mary Jane) Rose.(Emily Rose) Nellie, Nance (Annie) Florrie (Flora).
 ???
Their names may not be Nelson however. But their mothers name would show, possibly not the fathers.

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #22 on: Monday 23 April 12 00:25 BST (UK) »
HI

http://www.genealogysa.org.au/?option=com_search&ref=search&id=2&s=bmVsc29u&g=aA==&c=&y=&r=MA==
has an
1955 death for a Horace James Nelson
1969 death for a Horace George Nelson.

might be worth digging dee p an dpurchasing these!!


Robyn

 
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #23 on: Monday 23 April 12 00:41 BST (UK) »
Neil...Yes I thought of that..but where do I start..any suggestions...Dale

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #24 on: Monday 23 April 12 01:26 BST (UK) »
I would definitely be getting a copy of the Horace George Nelson first and see if it has any direct connection.  That's a really good pickup Robyn ;D

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« Reply #25 on: Monday 23 April 12 01:45 BST (UK) »
Yes I agree...will do that.. been onto Trove..Adelaide..SA looking for any Nelson family notice.. have to give eyes a rest now..crosseyed....funny thing..I found Mary Nelson death notice, but nothing for James Nelson..there could be a hint there as to his children.. He died 28 Jul 1924..Queen St. Adelaide..buried at WTC...strange I can't find any notice for him...he died before Mary, who died at the same address..buried together..so not likely to be seperated... I know certificates are the way to go, but there has to be limits to the pocket..will do if no other way...Dale.

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Re: Is Horris.. George NELSON
« Reply #26 on: Monday 23 April 12 07:03 BST (UK) »
Dale

http://www.centennialpark.org/
Horace George Nelson aged 75 in 1969 last abode  Torrens Park
Horace Nelson aged 70 in 1961 last abode in BC Canada
creamtion record detailss also given.

http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/OurCemeteries.aspx
WTC also has intermentsf for  Ellen and Mary Jane Nelson in the same grave ages seem appropriate.

It might be worth contacting teh cemetry to see what information they are allowed to let you have.

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany