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Register of duties paid for apprentices' indentures, 1710-1811
« on: Tuesday 25 October 11 15:18 BST (UK) »
Has anyone come across this register before?

I was researching the name Poignand (Hippolitus) and discovered that my potential ancestor had his apprenticeship dues paid by Jonah or Jonas Emery on November 11, 1770 (St. Martin In The Fields). Another Poignand (Louis) also had his apprenticeship dues paid by Jonas. The two Poignands did not undertake the same profession; Hippolitus was a jeweller/silversmith, and Louis took up medicine.

Would Jonas/Jonah be related to them, or was he just a guy in town that paid dues for people?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Agard, Cook, Earwaker, Garbitt, Gascoine, Greaves, Griffith, Stephenson,

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Re: Register of duties paid for apprentices' indentures, 1710-1811
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 October 11 15:40 BST (UK) »
From 1710 to 1811 the Commissioners of Stamps kept registers of the money they received from the duty on indentures. These registers now form the Apprenticeship Books (IR 1) which can be viewed digitally through DocumentsOnline
See http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/apprenticeship-records.htm

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Re: Register of duties paid for apprentices' indentures, 1710-1811
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 October 11 14:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you stanmapstone, this link helped me to understand several things:

1) Masters of a trade paid tax money to have an apprentice(s) -  {so Jonas Emery was a silversmith, since I know for cetain that Hippolitus was one. This also clarifies that Louis was a silversmith as well, which I can confirm through the society of Jersey, Channel Islands} There is another Louis who became a physician, and I confused the two.

2) The taxes can be paid at any time; before, during, or even after the apprenticeship has finished.

I can now neaten up my notes.  ;D
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Re: Register of duties paid for apprentices' indentures, 1710-1811
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 March 12 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Hello I came across by chance yesterday the gravestone of Louis Poignand in Guernsey yesterday, it shows on the headstone that he was previously resident in Jersey, I thought this may be of interest to you.  Kind regards Pete

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Re: Register of duties paid for apprentices' indentures, 1710-1811
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 March 12 13:09 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for this amazing photo! Looks like Jane was 90 years old when she died. What a good long life.
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Re: Register of duties paid for apprentices' indentures, 1710-1811
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 March 12 08:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,
especially Stan,
Are the actual records available to search? (Because I'm darned if I can find anything like a search engine on that site.) Or do I have to go somewhere from there?
I'd really like to find some apprenticeship records.
Leonie.
Direct matriarchal line; ENNIS-Yeatman-Cooper-Papps-Ryland-Lechford/Luxford-Bagshaw-Henriett
ENNIS-Thomas-Bonnin-Aldridge-Williams-Harding-Brown.
ENNIS-Davis/Davies-Buck-Oakley-
JONES-Roberts-Handy-Ross-Warrillow-Eagles-Cotterill-Bailey.
JONES-Walton-Grayson-Stobbs-Baldwin-Ibbotson-Scott.
JONES-Goodwin-Parker-Instant-Hubbard-Hancock-Skinner.

STILL LOOKING FOR: Elizabeth Ann Balfour ENNIS nee DAVIS. Disappeared in Adelaide, South Australia. 1881.

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Re: Register of duties paid for apprentices' indentures, 1710-1811
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 March 13 01:46 GMT (UK) »
Just a quick (first) post to make contact with others interested in the Poignand line in Australia, with some info probably already known to others but maybe not . . . ask away!

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Re: Register of duties paid for apprentices' indentures, 1710-1811
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 March 13 09:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dave,
It;s so long since I was doing this line of enquiry.... I'll have to get back to you, might not be until after Easter weekend.
Leonie.
Direct matriarchal line; ENNIS-Yeatman-Cooper-Papps-Ryland-Lechford/Luxford-Bagshaw-Henriett
ENNIS-Thomas-Bonnin-Aldridge-Williams-Harding-Brown.
ENNIS-Davis/Davies-Buck-Oakley-
JONES-Roberts-Handy-Ross-Warrillow-Eagles-Cotterill-Bailey.
JONES-Walton-Grayson-Stobbs-Baldwin-Ibbotson-Scott.
JONES-Goodwin-Parker-Instant-Hubbard-Hancock-Skinner.

STILL LOOKING FOR: Elizabeth Ann Balfour ENNIS nee DAVIS. Disappeared in Adelaide, South Australia. 1881.

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Re: Register of duties paid for apprentices' indentures, 1710-1811
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 March 13 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Since my post, in October 2011, apparently you can now only view the records online at Ancestry and FindMyPast
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Mapstone, Mapston. Sunderland, Somerset
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