Paulin Family, Norham

[roderickpaulin]

I have been trying to find records for the following family. I can find them in the census' but can not locate baptisms for the children or marriage for the parents.

My 4xGreat Grandparents John Paulin born about 1800 in Horncliffe, Northumberland and his wife Mary (surname unknown) born about 1798 in Scremerston, Northumberland.

they had the following children all supposedly born in Norham according to census:

William Paulin abt 1826
Margaret Paulin abt 1830
Eleanor (or Helen) Cairns Paulin (my 3xgreat grandmother) born c1833
Thomas Paulin abt 1835
James Paulin 1838
Mary Paulin abt 1841

my 3xgreat grandmother married a John Small and I can find no marriage for them either all their children were born in Ancroft or Tweedmouth apart from my great great grandmother Mary Ann Small who was born in Sprouston in Roxburgshire in 1860. She is the second oldest.

I am basically trying to locate the marriage between John Small and Eleanor Paulin and then the marriage between Eleanor's parents John Paulin and Mary and then the baptisms of Eleanor and her siblings.

Any help would really be appreciated. I fear the trouble may be the surname is spelt in various different ways. I have already seen Eleanor as Helen, Eleanor and Elendor in the census and her daughter birth record. Surprisingly though in her daughter birth cert (Mary Ann Small born 1860 in Sprouston), she is as Elendor Cairns (no mention of Paulin), but all her other childrens birth certs both the eldest and the youngest she is Paulin.

Shevy I've got a copy of a letter sent to my father back in 1978 that lists a Helen Paulin born in 1829 at Horncliffe. the letter is signed  by a mrs. stearns - is that your line ?

[CelticMom]

I know Eleanor was also referred to as Helen, but 1829 is possibly too early for her birth. Does the letter name parents or give any other clues. I know Eleanor's father was apparently born inHorncliffe

[roderickpaulin]

the letter included a reference to the 1851 census in Loanend, Parish of Norham.
John Paulin head married 49 fisherman Horncliffe
Mary Paulin wife married 52 fisherman Scremerston
William Paulin son unmarried 25 fisherman Norham Parish
Helen Cairns Paulin daughter unmarried 18 aglab Norham Parish
Thomas Paulin son unmarried 15 aglab Norham Parish
James Paulin son unmarried 12 scholar Norham Parish
 

[CelticMom]

Yes that family in the census is mine. Eleanor (Helen) cairns Paulin is my 3xgreat grandmother

[heiserca]

Ladykirk, NB probably refers to Ladykirk, Berwickshire.  I have a Margaret Paulin born 1754 and her family also came from Ladykirk in Berwickshire.  As for alternate spelling, the church record showed Margaret's surname as PALEN and her father as George PALINE.

[CelticMom]

Still struggling tracing this line backward backwards. I can't find any baptism for Helen and also do not know the mothers maiden name or any of the parents of her parents.

It is odd because Helen uses Cairns as her maiden name in a couple of her children's baptisms, but uses PAulin for everything else.

I of course still have the two possible baptisms for her father John Paulin/pallon but can't identify which one is definately him. If only I could find a marriage of he to Mary unknown. The records for this family appear to be Scarce. As no baptism for any of Eleanor's siblings can be found either and no marriage for Eleanor.

[ferndale]

Hi Rodrick,
ferndale here.  I have done the DNA test but doubt I would be in there.. but I do have a cousin who would be in.  She is now living in LA  She is the other one I got a post from the same nite I met you.

Catch up soon, Dale.

ps I'll go have a look thru the DNA. byeee

[Derrick William]

Hi All
My great grandfathers brother John Small married Elendor Cairns Paulin i have recorded in 1857:  John died when he fell from Ramparts following a night out in Berwick Upon Tweed in 1892 i have read Coroners report and paper cuttings recording his death

Cheers Derrick

[CelticMom]

Still struggling with this line.

Still not managed to confirm the parents of John Paulin or find the marriage of his daughters Eleanor Cairns Paulin to John Small or the baptisms of Johns children’s. It’s rather frustrating. No records can be found.

I have done the ancestry DNA so maybe I can connect it somehow that way by finding a descendant of a sibling, not sure how accurate that would be though.

I am sure the Cairns middle name  must connect in somewhere.