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Offline loudam

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Surname Ni Longphuirt
« on: Thursday 03 November 11 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone know what surname this would have translated to, the most obvious one to me is Longford......
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Re: Surname Ni Longphuirt
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 November 11 20:26 GMT (UK) »
the Ní means it's a daughter - I think Longford would usually be written as in Irish as Longfort, but maybe this is a phonetic spelling by someone ?



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Re: Surname Ni Longphuirt
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 November 11 20:39 GMT (UK) »
according to this page on Irish Archaeology a longphort was the '..name of a permanent stronghold constructed by the Vikings on the shores and riverbanks of Ireland...' (plural longphuirt)

Maybe how the town of Longford derived it's name ?


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Re: Surname Ni Longphuirt
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 November 11 20:56 GMT (UK) »
It actually means Lankford!!!  ;D  https://www.familysearch.org/search/records#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Alongford~%20%2Bany_place%3Acork~%20%2Bany_year%3A1933-1933

I searched in a way that it didn't give the english version of it!

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Re: Surname Ni Longphuirt
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 November 11 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Never heard of that surname before - there are a few BMD registration for it (as Lankford & Langford) though, most seem to be in Cork

I still think Ní Longphuirt derives from the Irish for Longford though!

Maybe someone making an Gaelic version of their surname Lankford came up with this ?


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Re: Surname Ni Longphuirt
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 November 11 21:08 GMT (UK) »
Thats what I've just been thinking, is it a case that it's an Irish entry and someone translated it, I think I might actually get it just to see whats on it! As far as I know this particular family were very much into their Irishness!!
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Re: Surname Ni Longphuirt
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 November 11 21:11 GMT (UK) »
the plot thickens... according to a Surname Database website (surnamedb.com)  '...Recorded in several spellings including Langford, Lankford, and Longford, this is an English locational surname. It ultimately derives from any of the places called Langford or Longford in the counties of Bedfordshire, Devonshire, Essex, Norfolk, Nottinghamshire, Oxfordshire, Somerset and Wiltshire...'.

McLysaght gives similar details 'Langford..English toponomic, mainly in South Munster..  came to Ulster in 16thC and later established mainly in counties Limerick & Kerry..' 

toponomic = derived from a place name


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Re: Surname Ni Longphuirt
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 November 11 21:13 GMT (UK) »
It actually means Lankford!!!  ;D  https://www.familysearch.org/search/records#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Alongford~%20%2Bany_place%3Acork~%20%2Bany_year%3A1933-1933

I searched in a way that it didn't give the english version of it!

No, the results from LDS database search doesn't mean that the surname means Lankford. If you put in a particular surname (such as Ní Longphuirt) it will show results for that surname and similar ones (such as Lankford, Longford...).
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Surname Ni Longphuirt
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 November 11 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Both the Lankford and the Ni Longphuirt have the same Volume and page numbers so they appear to match, but that could be just as simple as someone doing the translation!

At this stage I've nothing to loose to get it, next step is tell the family their mother didn't exist!! ;D
O Riordan/Riordan / Dorgan/ Barry (Cork & Rathcooney)
O Sullivan & O Shea/Shea (Cork)
O Connell (Cork)
Walsh (Cork & Killarney)
Baldwin & Stanton, Sullivan, (Cork)
Lonergan (Cork, Tipperary, Limerick)
Deady ( Cork-Kanturk)