M. I.'s St, Mary's, Rye - Harvey family

[Chris in 1066Land]

Angela

If you send me your e-mail address via private message, I will send you a copy of the Rye churchyard Plan.

Chris in 1066

[angela2b]

Thanks Chris, the churchyard plan arrived fine just now.

Marinerclark,
the Nicholas Harvey who "unfortunately drowned in Rye Bay", married to a Mary Lilburn/Lilborn/Lylbourn, is  my 5xgreat grandfather.
Yes, there were an awful lot of "Nicholas Harveys"!  I do find them a bit confusing, I must say...

Viv,
Looking at one of the Nicholas Harveys mentioned in the E43 inscription above, "... Captain of the 'Cumberland'
  who was lost with his wife and crew Sept .. 1829 aged 29"; this chap appears to be slightly off to one side of my tree.   
I have come across the 1831 baptism, in Rye Baptist church, of a Nicholas Cumberlander Harvey; parents James Harvey and Ann.  It seemed such a strange middle name, that I can't help wondering if it might be connected with the couple who died on the Cumberland in some way.  In the 1861 census he is a painter, living in Hastings, as "brother" of Martha Golding.


Angela

[marinerclark]

The Admiralty document on Philip Lilburn is HCA   26/8/33.  This is a Letter ofMarqu for the Swallow  a 6 gun sloop.  More crew is listed and the investors.  Any one know how to trace pay out of prize money. It was 1757.      LizR 

[Summercloud]

Hi Angela,

The Nicholas Harvey who unfortunately drowned in Rye Bay was my great x 6 grandfather.  The name Nicholas has been frequently used in the family but I may be able to help you to sort them out.  The Nicholas above married 4 times.  His first wife Hannah (don't know surname), had a son Lester in 1730.  His second wife, Mary Lilbourne had two sons, John  and Nicholas.  The latter died in infancy.  His third wife Jane Willis had a son Richard who also died in infancy and his fourth wife Elizabeth Cooper bore him 7 children.  Nicholas her son, born 1752, was my great X 5 grandfather.

Viv

[marinerclark]

Viv  Our Philip Clark  1730-1806  may have been the boatswain and  a Thomas Clark was the carpenter. Possibly Philip's brother  on the Swallow.  Have found which prizes they took in the October London Chronicle in 1757   LizR

[angela2b]

Gosh Viv!  Fancy all those wives!
That does indeed help make sense of things a bit, now that I can link him to so many spouses.

I wonder if the Hannah who was NH's first wife might have been nee Baker.  I found a marriage of a Nicholas Harvey to Hannah Baker in St Olave's church, Southwark, in 1729.  Of course, there's nothing to prove that it's the right one, but Nicholas and Hannah's child Lester was born in 1730...

Sorry to have been so long replying;  I forgot to check the thread for a bit!

Many thanks for the further info.

Angela

[othello]

Hi Viv Hardy

Do you remember we, made contact through Genes Reunited, we both descend from Stephen Harvey and I was living in Normandy France. I now live in County Durham, it would be lovely to compere notes.

Martin

[marinerclark]

Viv and Angela and other Harvey researchers.  I am rereading old posts and found the reference to Mary Lilbourn married to Nicholas Harvey.  Itis possible her father Philip was brother to Elizabeth Lilbourn in my line.  Elizabeth born 1676 and Philip 1680.   Their father Philip wrote his will in 1696 and probate was granted 20 Oct 1707.   Will is summarized on the ESRO website.  Lilbourns owned land around the Landgate in Rye and were herring dealers.   I am beginning to realize how interrelated all these families were.  Hoping to hear of your progress    LizR