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Re: Help with Irish ancestor George Bambury
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 November 11 16:55 GMT (UK) »
finally as running out of time, have you seen the Bambery family in Co Kerry see http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bambury/44/mb.ashx
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Thanks for this, I will fire off an email. :-*
I'm beginning to dislike George Bambury!! >:(
I have gone back to my old notes and came across a find which fits in with County Cork.  There was/is a barracks at Clonakilty housing the Garda.
Also, Castle Bay, County Cork is the setting for a Maeve Binche novel.
The Bambury family could have come from County Kerry and George snr was stationed in Cork, hence his son's birth at the barracks.
So maybe I have my answer :-\     Andrea
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Re: Help with Irish ancestor George Bambury
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 November 11 18:48 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried Castlebay in Mayo?

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Re: Help with Irish ancestor George Bambury
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 October 17 09:56 BST (UK) »
Hello Andrea.

My name is Stephen Bambury and George Bambury was also my Great Grandfather. Like you I have come to a dead end with his mother .
My father was the son of John Bambury married in 1896.
Do you have a copy of the census in 1861 when she and George were a lodger in Newcastle street Burlem?
Also do you have a copy of Georges wedding certificate in 1873 (although I have seen some records showing 1867).
I have lost my copies due to a computer hard disc issue.
Finally did you get any luck after 2011?

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Re: Help with Irish ancestor George Bambury
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 October 17 11:13 BST (UK) »

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Re: Help with Irish ancestor George Bambury
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 October 17 20:50 BST (UK) »
Castle Bay barracks left me unsure.  Castle Bar army barracks kept suggesting Co Mayo also many irish constabulary barracks were know as the barracks.  At some point I entered Castle Bay barracks nr  Ballylongford Aghavallen Kerry into Google images and got pages of images but not a real connection, the results selected more by castle than any other word I continued going for civil location records, ie by civil parish or even a church tax with records by civil parish  there are only two Bambury entries in the twenty six counties, http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=bambury&firstname=&county=&parish=&townland=&search=Search
Bambury   John   Ballyline   Aghavallen   Kerry   1824
Bambury   Thos   Ballyline   Aghavallen   Kerry   1824  Only two and these two made me look again and again as a starting point
Caution is needed with the Tithes as they are renowned for being selective and incomplete  Donít move on until you look up the entry which is at least one line and just sometimes a map. Thos Bambury turns out to be the entry immediately underneath John Bambury who has 12 arable and 18 acres of mountain side and bog.   Thos entry is difficult to read, it starts as  Thos Bambery and Partners its 45 acres of class 3 pasture? and 24 acres of mountainside and bog   Thatís quite a patch.. Its also the first time I have encountered this phrase Partners in the Tithes books.

 [There is a famous graveyard in Aghavallen however  apparently there are no Bambury graves as listed by Find A Grave database]

after the tithes the next record that is another census substitute is Griffiths Valuation useing the civil parish in 1851  I have mentioned this before
http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php the quick index and so useful
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ has much more detail including maps showing with lick the boundaries of the homestead.  Then you go onto their map see the place, slide anob changing form 1851 map to modern. The noting verything possible like road names  open google maps go to sateliite and then street view and you can see today what the place looks like. Great fun and useful
Bambury   John      Ballyline East      Aghavallen   Kerry map ref 2
Bambury   Margaret   Well Rd. Ballymacasey   Aghavallen   Kerry map ref 13 9
Bambury   John        Coolnagraigue     Aghavallen  Kerry map ref 5
Bambury   Edmond   Lislaughtin      Aghavallen   Kerry map ref 9
Bambury   Daniel      Tullahennel South   Aghavallen   Kerry map ref 5

Finally you can move to the census the parish now becomes part of administration district names
Census see http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie
Note: The Civil Parish of Aghavallen ceased to be used for census purposes in the mid nineteenth century when District Electoral Divisions (DEDs) were introduced.
Aghavallen comprises the entire DEDs of:
Astee (Astee East and West, Ballynoneen, Carrigane, Cloonaman, Curraghderrig, Glanawillin, Kilcolman, Killeton, Kylatallin, Larha, Letter, Sliss townlands)
Carrig (Aghanagran Lower; Middle and Upper, Carrig Island, Carrigafoyle, Gortard, Martara, Rusheen, Rusheen Park townlands. This DED also includes most of Ballylongford town.
Lislaughtin (Ballyline East and West, Ballymacasy, Bunnaruddee, Coolnagraigue, Dromalivaun, Gurteenacloona, Leanamore, Lislaughtin, Shrone townlands. The DED also includes the Will Road and Main Street areas of Ballylongford Town.
and part of
Lisselton DED (Tullahennel North and South townlands),

there are 56 Bambury listed in the 1901 census living in Co Kerry
these reduce to 41 when districts that contained part of Aghavallen
they reduce to 4 when comparing to Ballyline as listed in the Tithes.
the census 1901 gives them as one household
2 in Ballyline East (Leislaughtin, Kerry)

Bambury   John   b ~1831 70   Male   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Co Kerry   Farmer   Read and write   Irish and English   Married   -
Bambury   Margaret   70   Female   Wife   Roman Catholic   Co Kerry   -   Read and write   Irish and English   Married   -
 children
Bambury   Mary   22   Female   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Co Kerry   Farmers Daughter   Read and write   English   Not Married   -
Bambury   George   21   Male   Son   Roman Catholic   Co Kerry   Farmers Son   Read and write   English   Not Married   -
surprisingly I can find no trace of them in 1911. did George emigrate etc  I stop here .

Andrea I notice you have George Bambury on Genes Reunited, and I noticed another tree holder Anne has an unknown Bambury in Ireland Kerry b 1700.  Over to others who can help and the church records if in existence. 
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Re: Help with Irish ancestor George Bambury
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 October 17 23:29 BST (UK) »
in 1851  a George Banbury of the 41st foot was stationed in Castlebar,


First name(s)   George
Last name   Banbury
Name as transcribed   George
Year   1851
Service number   2144
Rank   Private
Regiment or unit   Depot. 41st (The Welch) Regiment Of Foot
Period   01/01/1851-31/03/1851
Location   Castlebar, Ireland
The National Archives reference   WO 12/5447
Record set   British Army, Worldwide Index 1851
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Help with Irish ancestor George Bambury
« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 October 17 10:50 BST (UK) »
1861 That Burlem reference is Burslem
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census via Genes Reunited the result I have taken out lines with nothing filled in so heres an extract
Household Information
Street   Nile Street
County   Staffordshire
Parish   Burslem
City   
Town   Burslem
Ecclesiastical District   St Johns
Parliamentary Borough   Stoke on Trent
Enumeration District   17
Registration District   Wolstanton

First Name   Ellen
Last Name   Bambury
Birth Year   1833
Age   28
Birth Place   Ireland
Relationship To Head of Household   Boarder
Gender   Female
Condition   Married

First Name   George
Last Name   Bambury
Birth Year   1851
Age   10
Birth Place   Ireland
Relationship To Head of Household   Son{error? not boarder, I think he is a boarder}
Gender   Male
Occupation   Collier {ie works in a Colliery mine}

So is the right George or George Jr
head of house is
Elijah
Last Name   Lees
Birth Year   1830
Age   31
Birth Town   Tunstall
his wife is not listed  she could be  a sister of Ellen
son aged 8 whose occupation is a Potter
so where is George senior?   in ireland?   he must an army record
keep going
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Re: Help with Irish ancestor George Bambury
« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 October 17 11:19 BST (UK) »
by chance I found references in website Findmypast
a marriage in
First Name   George
Last Name   Bambury
Birth Year   1905
Country   England
County   Staffordshire
Event Quarter   2
District   Wolstanton
and a death
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
First Name   George
Last Name   Bambury
Year   1897
Birth Year   1852
District   Wolstanton
more details join or buy credits etc see Findmypast
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Re: Help with Irish ancestor George Bambury
« Reply #17 on: Friday 06 October 17 15:17 BST (UK) »
army records

 I can find no trace of 41st (The Welsh) Regiment of Foot 1831-1881 being stationed in Ireland online quickly, the slow way would be going through the army list year books which really cover officers so  I suggest you contact Welch Regiment Museum in Cardiff Castle
no luck at https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/

there are only 3 George Bambury results  in familysearch.org  Chelsea Pensioners' Service Records one is 1885 wales, another a George bamber , the remaining one is
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5CD-KMR
United Kingdom, Chelsea Pensioners' Service Records
Name   George William Bambury
birth details normally a year and where enlisted.  its blank
Event Type   Pension
Event Year Range   1760-1913
Event Place   Caernarvonshire
United Kingdom
 
I also tried Bambery just in case without a result.

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