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Ancestors and Children of Richard Raleigh, Rayley and Mary Hart in Leeds
« on: Wednesday 09 November 11 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi everybody

I'd like to ask this for a German friend:

Marriage at 29.10.1853 in Leeds (St. Patricks chapel)
Richard Raleigh *1825, son of Jeremiah Raleigh
Mary Rayley, née Hart *1833, daughter of James Hart

The only known child of this couple:  Jeremiah Rayley, *19.01.1855 in Leeds

My friend would like to know if there were born other children to this couple.

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Re: Children of Richard Raleigh, Rayley and Mary Hart in Leeds
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 November 11 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Do you have this couple on the 1861 census?

The only thing I'm coming up with is in 1871 and I'm not convinced it's the right one

Marriage in 1865 Leeds - Edward Schofield  & Mary Riley

1871 shows stepchildren Jeremiah Riley 16yrs and Mary E 13yrs - both b Leeds and there is a Mary Ellen Riley birth in 1858 on freebmd
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Re: Children of Richard Raleigh, Rayley and Mary Hart in Leeds
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 November 11 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carole

Thank you very much for your answer.

Another researcher from a German Forum has found the following in the Census 1861:

1861 Leeds, North Leeds, 8 Helen´s Court:

Jeremiah (1 or 7 months?)
and Mary Riley (3 years)
lived with the grandparents
James (55) und Mary (53) Hart .
There were also their children
Margret (19) and Eliza (15) Hart.
and also 3 adults and one child as lodger.
All Harts und Rileys were born in Ireland.

Mary Riley (Hart) didn't live there and was not found.


Now the question is: Where were Richard and Mary Riley (Hart)
at the time of the Census of 1861? If Mary was the same who
married Edward Scofield in 1865, what has happend to Richard?

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Re: Children of Richard Raleigh, Rayley and Mary Hart in Leeds
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 December 11 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Finally the friend who is searching for this family gave me a reply:

It is not sure that the persons you found are the right ones
because Jeremiah Rayley was born 19.01.1855 at Balls Yard,
but the one in the Census was born 1860 or 1861.

Jeremiah Rayley, *19.01.1855 Balls Yard
Father: Richard Raleigh *1825
Mother: Mary Raleigh, née Hart

Richard Raleigh *1825,
Father: Jeremiah Raleigh, Labourer
Marriage 29.10.1853
Mary Hart *1833, Father: James Hart, Balls Yard

My friend has also found the following entry, but is not sure
if it is the right one (and I don't know from which source it is).

Mary Anne Hart *14.04.1833 Basigstocke, Hampshire
Parents: James Hart and Rebecca

Now the question is could this be the same Mary Hart as the
wife of Richard Raleigh and mother of Jeremiah Rayley?

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Re: Children of Richard Raleigh, Rayley and Mary Hart in Leeds
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 25 April 12 21:55 BST (UK) »
How can I find the bithday of Richard RALEIGH in 1825? And his father RALEIGH , Jeremiah about 1795??
Who can help me ??
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Re: Children of Richard Raleigh, Rayley and Mary Hart in Leeds
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 April 12 22:01 BST (UK) »
Hallo,
another question:
I am looking for the date of death to RALEIGH ( or RAYLEY ) Richard.
In England I cannot find anything.
It is possible he is emigrated to America?
Who can tell me anything about or  what I can do for more information.
Thank you so much
Narbonne

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Re: Children of Richard Raleigh, Rayley and Mary Hart in Leeds
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 May 12 14:52 BST (UK) »
Hi

Narbonne has received more info from the church where
the marriage of Richard Raleigh took place.
Now we know the addresses where the parents of groom
and bride and the witnesses lived in 1853.

Richard, the groom, lived at BRICK STREET, Leeds
His Parents, Jeremiah und Mary Raleigh at RICHMOND HILL, Leeds
Parents of the bride, James and Mary Hart at BALLS YARD, Leeds
Witnesses:
George Johnson: SMITHERS
Bridgett Divine:  WALKERS STREET
Hannah Stanton: address not known

Question: Is it possible to see in the Census entry of 1861 mentioned above
if they lived then at the same address? If so that would be the proof that
the persons in the Census entry where the persons Narbonne is searching for.

Narbonne has also found death entries that could be a match:

James Hart died March 1869 in Leeds at age 60, that gives as birth year 1809
Mary Hart died March 1871 in Leeds at age 59, that gives as birth year 1812 
In the Census 1861 above mentioned the were born 1806 and 1808.

Do you think it is possible that his are the same persons?
Is it possible to find the birth entries or baptisms of them?
Also the birth and death entry of Jeremiah Raleigh or Rayley,
father of Richard Raleigh or Rayley, probably in Ireland?

Probably we have also found the death years of Richard
and his wife Mary Anne in Waterford, Ireland:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=599703.msg4493801

It turned out that this was a Mary Anne Grannon who married
Richard Raleigh in Leeds in 1861 and who showes up in
Waterford as Mary Anne Grennan at a childs birth record.

Many thanks for your help in advance.

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Re: Ancestors and Children of Richard Raleigh, Rayley and Mary Hart in Leeds
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 October 12 11:43 BST (UK) »
Hello
i am looking for the sister of Jeremiah Rayley:
Mary Ellen Rayley (Riley )  * June 1858, Leeds
Father: Richard Raleigh *1825 Mother: Mary Hart *1833 oo 1853 Leeds
oo 2) 1865 Edward Schofield, Leeds
When she has married? 

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Re: Ancestors and Children of Richard Raleigh, Rayley and Mary Hart in Leeds
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 December 13 16:19 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
Richard Raleigh, (Riley, Rayley) was born 1825, he was dead defenately 1881. hes wife Mary Riley married 1865 Edward Schofield in Leeds. But I cant find an entree by Free BMD UK, but  I know that he  has not died in Ireland.
Thanks Grisou :-\