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Nolan (Nowlan) & Mulhall, Borris in Ossory
« on: Sunday 27 November 11 12:33 GMT (UK) »
My great grandfather was James Nolan.  He worked for DUTC (Dublin Trams).  As far as I know he was born around 1878 in Queen's County.  This is confirmed in both the 1901 and 1911 census for Dublin City.  I have his marriage certificate to Mary Teresa McCormick in Dublin in 1900.  His certificate shows his father as James Nolan, occupation 'Herd'.

I am trying to find any info on his parents, brothers/sisters and on trawling through many records can only find one James Nolan born in Laois around 1878.  He was born to James Nowlan and Anne Mulhall, there were several children:  (info found on LDS site)
Sarah (1868)  Borris in Ossory
Mary   (1869)  Borris in Ossory
John   (1871) Borris in Ossory
Anne   (1873)  Borris in Ossory
Joseph (1875)  Donoghmore ?
Elizabeth (1877)  Donoghmore
James (1878)   Borris in Ossory
Michael (1881)  Borris in Ossory

James Nowlan's father was also called James and Anne Mulhall's father was Michael Mulhall. (from LDS site)

I just can't find a link to tie this family to mine...I can't even find any of them on the 1901 or 1911 census.

The only information that matches is that most of the children's names are continued in James's marriage to Mary Teresa McCormick.

I have also checked out the IFHF site which confirms most of the above. 

Can anybody suggest any Laois websites I could try?  Or have any knowledge of the Nowlans/Mulhalls in Laois?
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Re: Nolan (Nowlan) & Mulhall, Borris in Ossory
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 November 11 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Have you certs for any those births you mentioned ?

Father's name and occupation might help with a connection with your James - or maybe ruling one out.


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Re: Nolan (Nowlan) & Mulhall, Borris in Ossory
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 November 11 12:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shane

No I haven't as yet - I only found all this info on the web in the last couple of days...

Would you know if it would be worthwhile buying the marriage cert of James Nowland/Anne Mulhall from IFHF or one of the birth certificates?  Not sure if they show occupations or not? (before ordering from the GRO)?



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Elliott, English - Arklow, Wicklow
Costello - Clones, Wexford

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Re: Nolan (Nowlan) & Mulhall, Borris in Ossory
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 November 11 12:51 GMT (UK) »
given a choice I would always go for a civil cert first.

Parish records often include less details - e.g. RC marriages and baptisms generally dont include occupations, and often include less detailed addresses. Most of the records on RootsIreland are Church records - check their sources...



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Re: Nolan (Nowlan) & Mulhall, Borris in Ossory
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 November 11 12:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - I will...
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Re: Nolan (Nowlan) & Mulhall, Borris in Ossory
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 November 11 12:54 GMT (UK) »
The one detail you get on RC baptisms that doesn't appear on civil records is the names of the sponsors/godparents... which can sometimes help



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Re: Nolan (Nowlan) & Mulhall, Borris in Ossory
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 November 11 20:25 GMT (UK) »
A list of some burial records from around Borris-in-Ossory, of Nolan's, who may, or may not be related to those you are searching for.

Borris cemetery;
Nolan Michael; Ballybrophy, 20/1/1990
Nolan John; Pike of Rushall, 27/5/1992
Nolan Kathleen; Green roads, 16/5/1993
Nolan James; Main st, 10/5/1996
Nolan Christy; Clover hill, Main st, 18/11/1998
Nolan Tommy; Doon Green roads, 13/1/1999
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Nolan Kathleen (77) 15/5/1993 Doon
Thomas (hus); (83)  13/1/1999
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Nolan John; (63) 27/5/1992 Loran Pike of Rushall
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Nolan Michael; (18) 20/1/1998 Ballybrophy
father- Joseph; (62) 23/7/2003
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Nolan James; (83) 9/5/1996
Nolan Christy; (70)  18/11/1998
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Killmeestia cemetery;
Nolan Bridget; 13/1/1963
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Skeirke cemetery;

Nolan John; 18/7/1804
Nolan Mary; 1819
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Re: Nolan (Nowlan) & Mulhall, Borris in Ossory
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 December 11 21:38 GMT (UK) »
There was a Nolan family living in the townsland of Grangemore  Borris in Ossory you can find them in the 1901 & 1911 cencus (Kilcoke). the house where they lived in  Grangemore was removed in the 1980's . In the next townsland Grangebeg lived the Quaney family one of whom was very involved with Dublin Trams (building , Design )

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Re: Nolan (Nowlan) & Mulhall, Borris in Ossory
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 December 11 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Seanmac for this info...I will keep it handy during my research.  Thanks also to jjjj2 - I will check the census's again and look these families up.

Meanwhile, I bought all the James Nolan births from RootsIreland site that were born to a James Nolan in Laois:

James Nolan and Anne McCormack had a James in Dec 1878 in Borris in Ossory
James Nolan and Mary Moran had a James in Jun 1870 in Tiernan, Ballickmoyler
James Nolan and Eliza Lane/Water had a James in May 1870 in Knockacoller, Castletown
James Nolan and Eliza Dunne had a James in Dec 1867 in Turrow, Doonane
James Nolan and Margaret Lararson had a James in Dec 1869 in Old Court, Ballylinan
James Nolan and Margaret Fanning had a James in Dec 1869 in Aughanure, Arles

These are all the births for James Nolan around this period.  I am going to discount the 'Margaret's because there are no Margaret's in the family line....there are Anne's, Mary's and Elizabeth's.....I just need to find a solid link....

I don't know if it was just James Nolan (son) who moved to Dublin in 1900 on his own or if the whole family moved...as his Dad's (James) occupation was 'Herd' I reckoned he stayed in Laois?. 
James (son) address at the time of his marriage in Nov 1900 was 9 Sackville Place, Dublin....he moved in after the marriage with his wife's family in Dame Street.



Brady, Nolan, Fitzpatrick, Roe, Geoghegan, Gillespie, McCormick/McCormack - Dublin
Elliott, English - Arklow, Wicklow
Costello - Clones, Wexford