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Woodnorths of Whitehaven Pottery
« on: Wednesday 07 December 11 09:36 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find information about the family of Peter  Woodnorth who was in a partnership running the Whitehaven Pottery from abt 1800-1824.  Some sources say he 'built' the pottery (but he would have been only abt 20 at the time), others say he was in a partnership.  Jollies has him working in Gale Square with Cockburn in 1811, and later with a number of other men.  He was also involved with a Paper Mill at Egremont .  The family story is that he was a potter, but  he seems to have been the sales rep - a commission agent, but would have had to know plenty about pottery, so maybe he did an apprenticeship at some time.
  Peter II (his father, Peter I) came from Weston-in-Cheshire: first marriage (?to Sarah - possibly Timmis). His 2nd marriage was to Susanna Robina Nightingale (née Carr - father a soap manufacturer) in 1838, Liverpool, where he took over the running of her businesses as well as continuing his sales for the pottery for some time.  He was also very involved with Methodism, and was later one of the founders of the Church of Christ in England.  Plenty about them in the Liverpool Mercury.

   His son Peter III (marr.Hannah Johnson in St.Bees, 1834) was also a potter - only  siblings known definitely, were Thomas, and Robert, who became a ships' captain (marr. in Edinburgh 1852 to Catherine Mary Hadley) & who died in Calcutta, 1866.
There seems to be a William & possibly a Joseph, connected with the Pottery.  There is also the story that Peter II's daughter died suddenly at age 17, and this caused him to give up the pottery in 1824, but I can find no information about her or the event, and he certainly seems to have kept contact with the Pottery, until he went to Glasgow (Verreville, 1830-33).
Peter III's son - you got it! - Peter IV, married Hannah Copeland 1855, and they moved around England & Wales working in the "clay" areas; emigrated to NZ in 1874-5. Peter IV had a younger brother   Robert who remained in Whitehaven working as a house painter. The memorial stone in Whitehaven also mentions a Peter V,(son of Robert the housepainter).
 
I would be grateful for any help I can get sorting out  this family.

 


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Re: Woodnorths of Whitehaven Pottery
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 11:08 GMT (UK) »
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=rD8KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA713&lpg=PA713&dq=Whitehaven+Pottery++Cumberland&source=bl&ots=hE7xd2awCJ&sig=LhjjwonZbDfC5STN9iULtuHGNJ8&hl=en&ei=A0XfTvCbN6eTiAeeyNysBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Whitehaven%20Pottery%20%20Cumberland&f=false
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http://www.blueandwhite.com/museum.asp?p=Lilac

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http://www.localhistories.org/whitehaven.html

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http://www.cumberlandarchives.co.uk/content/view/157/30/
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http://books.google.com.au/books?id=yvKNPcWswh0C&pg=PA160&lpg=PA160&dq=Whitehaven+Pottery++Cumberland+woodnorth&source=bl&ots=TYb_0naqnd&sig=UsqSc5U6NoPg8mcEFHZfHyjtUh4&hl=en&ei=7UjfTuCoNu-TiAeAoM2qBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Whitehaven%20Pottery%20%20Cumberland%20woodnorth&f=falseWoodnorth built a large pottery in the Gins, named the Whitehaven Pottery,

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Re: Woodnorths of Whitehaven Pottery
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 11:12 GMT (UK) »
http://www.northernceramicsociety.org/NewsIndex.pdf
 'History of the W Cumberland Potteries', F Sibson, 83/56 ...... Whitehaven Pottery, 119/37. Woodnorth, Harrison, Hall & Co, est 1819, 24/8


http://www.mywhitehaven.co.uk/2011/11/whitehaven-pottery.html

 A third pottery began in 1819. It was known as the Whitehaven Pottery, and was run by Woodnorth, Harrison, Hall and Co

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Re: Woodnorths of Whitehaven Pottery
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Commission Agents were often to be found at ports involved with the import and export of goods.  It need not have had anything to do with pottery.
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Re: Woodnorths of Whitehaven Pottery
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 12:37 GMT (UK) »
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O203926/plate/?print=1
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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=1831-dbh&cid=-1

no title]  DBH 1/101/7  1913


Contents:
R Woodnorth & Son v. John Pitt: papers, including letterhead illustration for Woodnorth & on, decorators, referring to claim for debt.

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http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac.uk/articles/poet/PortobelloPoet.htm
He married Johanna Woodnorth sometime before 1839 and they lived at Ettingshall
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehaven

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http://www.thecumbriadirectory.com/Town_or_Village/location.php?url=whitehaven

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http://www.whitehaven.org.uk/letters.html

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http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/28864/pages/6241/page.pdf

"6th day of October, 1913, by Saran.
Brewster, of Wellington House aforesaid, Widow,
and Robert Woodnorth, of Duke-street, Whitehaven
aforesaid, Painter and Decorator, the executors therein
named), are hereby required to send in the particulars
of their debts, claims, and demands to me,"...


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Re: Woodnorths of Whitehaven Pottery
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 September 13 17:38 BST (UK) »
I'm curious to see if you have had any luck in sorting out the Woodnorth family any further.  I am also interested in learning more about this family, which appears to have ties to both Whitehaven and the area around Wybunbury (you mention Weston) in Cheshire.  I'm working on the John Hall with whom Peter Woodnorth was connected at Whitehaven.  Hall's father (also John Hall) and Woodnorth, I think, were associated somehow in Wybunbury in the late 1700s, and I have a hunch they married into the same (Bourne) family.  The (younger) John Hall who worked with Woodnorth in Whitehaven was an important pottery manufacturer in Burslem (1790s-1830s) and I'm trying to figure out how these particular families (Woodnorth, Hall, Bourne) and their related businesses tied these three places (Whitehaven, Wybunbury, and Burslem) together from the 1780s-1830s.

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Re: Woodnorths of Whitehaven Pottery
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 January 18 07:44 GMT (UK) »
 :)My wife is a descendant of Peter and Hannah Woodnorth (nee Johnson) and she is part of the NZ branch of the family. I am also trying to sort out details further back from this so further details if they have been found would be very interesting. The information I have needs to be sorted out very carefully with multiple people with the same name but I can provide the NZ links if anyone is interested.
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