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Elizabeth TAYLOR - Born 18-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania
« on: Saturday 10 December 11 15:13 GMT (UK) »
I think this is the last incomplete bit of my wife's ancestral chart that I have not thrown open to this most informative forum - so here goes.

I have unconfirmed information one of Wendy's ancestors was an Elizabeth Taylor (great name for an ancestor) - born 18-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania.

Elizabeth's parents were Thomas Taylor and Mary Smith (both from England??).
       Thomas Taylor b. around 1790, England??
                             d. 12-Sep-1824, Launceston, Tasmania
                             m. Mary Thomas (nee Smith) 1820 Launceston, Tas.
       Mary Smith b. around 1790 or 1800, England??
                        d. 1830, Launceston or 1868, Emu Bay, Tas??
                        m. ?? to someone Thomas prior to marriage to Thomas Taylor

Their daughter, Elizabeth, apparently married Edward Thomas 3-Nov-1834 (only 15 years old at the time??). Her husband, Edward, apparently died 11-Aug-1837 Longford, Tas. leaving Elizabeth as a young widow. Not sure if there were any children. She then married William Woodward 15-Mar-1838. William was apparently born around 1800 Yorkshire, England (closer to Elizabeth's parents generation??) and died 12-Feb 1881 Emu Bay, Tas. There were children of this marriage of whom, Hannah, b. 16-Sep-1843 Horton. Tas. is our interest.

What I am wondering is whether anyone can confirm or disprove any of the above information. I am not even sure where it came from. It would also be interesting to find out more about the backgrounds of Thomas Taylor, Mary Smith and William Woodward. How and when did they get to Australia? Obviously, we are back in the very early years of Tasmania here, so don't know how much can be tracked. Also names like Mary Smith don't help!

Brendan

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Re: Elizabeth Taylor - Born 18-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 December 11 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Brendan,

Can't help you with much but in the 1867-68 Tasmanian Directory under Alphabetical EMU BAY DIVISION an Edward Woodward is listed as a farmer, New Country.

The January 15th 1861 Hobart Town Gazette shows that an Edward Woodward was the propritor and occupier of farms 54 & 64 comprising 65 acres at New Country.

Ditto for December 14th 1880.

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Gerry 

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Re: Elizabeth Taylor - Born 18-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 December 11 04:26 GMT (UK) »
This list of children does appear on the Tas BDM indexes (FamilyLinks is sometimes incorrect)
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=282143

William and Maria registered at Launceston, mother's surname THOMAS.
The unnamed children and Cornelius registered at Horton, mother's surname TAYLOR.
Ruth, Frank and Rachel registered at Emu Bay, mother's surname TAYLOR.

The only way to find the names of the unnamed children is to access the baptism registers which are held at Tas Archives.  I do see a tree on Ancestry which has Hannah born 16 Sep 1843 and baptised 16 Oct 1844, so I would say that the church registers are the source of their information.  The other missing names are:

1845 Mary Ann
1847 George
1849 Harriett
1851 Eliza
1855 Ada

There is also an Emma, no record of birth around 1839, who died in 1854 at Horton.

There is no marriage for William WOOWARD to Elizabeth THOMAS/TAYLOR in 1838, but there is a marriage at Emu Bay on 15 March 1869 - the groom is aged 69 and the bride is aged 51 (Elizabeth THOMAS).  This marriage entry should state whether Elizabeth was a widow.  Perhaps one of them was not free to marry earlier.

The William WOODWARD who died at Emu Bay in 1881 was aged 79.  He died on 17 Feb, not 12 Feb, and the death registration states this date.  He fell from a horse and an inquest was held, perhaps the inquest details might give some family information http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=Q&id=6671

There is an administration of the estate of a William WOODWARD, wife Elizabeth in 1884.  This document says that he died on or about 18 Feb 1882 at Emu Bay.  I think it is probably your William, I cannot see another dying anywhere around that time.
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=9

Debra  :D

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Re: Elizabeth Taylor - Born 18-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 December 11 04:42 GMT (UK) »
I can only see one child to Edward THOMAS and Elizabeth, and that is Ellen born 7 April 1837 at Longford.

Some info on Cornelius WOODWARD, possible brother of Hannah
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/68234891?searchTerm=cornelius%20woodward&searchLimits=
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/68823196?searchTerm=cornelius%20woodward&searchLimits=

Debra  :D


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Re: Elizabeth Taylor - Born 18-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 December 11 06:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the information - you people sure know where to seek out this stuff!

Looking further through all the pages (and pages) of notes and jottings I have found more stuff on the children of Elizabeth Woodward (Thomas nee Taylor).

Elizabeth Taylor b. 20-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania
                        d. 13-May-1886 Ulverstone, Tasmania

1st marriage to Edward Thomas 3-Nov-1834
Children       Charles Edward Thomas 1835 - 1925
                   Ellen Thomas 1837 - 1915
Husband Edward was born 1804 Birmingham, England and died 11-Aug-1837 Longford, Tas. He arrived in Australia around 1821.

2nd marriage to William Woodward 15-Mar-1869
Children       William Woodward 1838 - 1838
                   Emma Woodward 1839 - 1854
                   Maria Woodward 1841 - ??
                   Hannah Woodward 1843 - 1876
                   Mary Ann Woodward 1845 - 1885
                   George Woodward 1847 - 1927
                   Harriet Woodward 1849 - 1922
                   F Woodward 1850 - ??
                   Cornelius Woodward 1853 - 1941
                   F Woodward 1855 - ??
                   Ruth Woodward 1858 - 1918
                   Frank Samuel Woodward 1859 - 1941
                   Rachel Woodward 1861 - 1934
Husband William was born around 1800 Yorkshire, England and died 12-Feb-1881 Emu Bay, Tas. (looks like this should be 17 Feb) Time of arrival in Australia unknown.

Also found the attached document - again source unknown.

Seems like this all fits reasonably well with additional information from forum members. Not sure why the second marriage should be in 1869, long after all children were born. It would seem that Elizabeth was free to marry but status of William is not known.

Still no closer to finding out about the arrival of Elizabeth's parents, Thomas Taylor and Mary Smith - were they a couple of convicts?

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Re: Elizabeth Taylor - Born 18-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 December 11 06:18 GMT (UK) »
The census entry from 1843 states that Elizabeth was not born in the colony, but arrived free.
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=10

Was Thomas TAYLOR the one who was executed for murder in 1824?

Debra  :D

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Re: Elizabeth Taylor - Born 18-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 December 11 06:18 GMT (UK) »
Immigration of an Elizabeth Taylor:

TAYLOR ELIZABETH
Date: 06/09/1832
Place: LONDON to HOBART TOWN
Ship to Tas: PRINCESS ROYAL
Category: IMMIGRANT/PASSENGER
Reel: I5-4
Section: CUS 30/1
Frame: P136
Film: SLTX/AO/EP/447

You would need to consult the TAS Archives to view this microfilm to see if there is any further information.



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Re: Elizabeth Taylor - Born 18-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 December 11 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Berndan
Did your Hannah Woodward m.  John Lapham ??
I know it is not what you were asking for but may be of interest.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/67612811?searchTerm=hannah woodward&searchLimits=l-title=Advocate+%28Burni...%7Ctitleid%3A46 :)

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Re: Elizabeth Taylor - Born 18-Dec-1819 Launceston, Tasmania
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 December 11 11:12 GMT (UK) »
Yes she did! .... and I have that article, but thanks for your input.

John Lapham was my wife's g-g-grandfather. His son, George, tragically killed in a mining accident, was my wife's g-grandfather.

Reading the other posts, I now have to find out which Elizabeth Taylor was Hannah's mother, the one I thought, born in Launceston, or the one who arrived as a free settler in 1832.

Or are they the same person, and my original information incorrect?

Back to the drawing board.....

Brendan