Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9

[Hazel17]

Well at least it looks like Sarah didn't get re-married in such a hurry but it does widen the window in which they met up by a year.

[toni*]

oh another year 

and the banns werent necessarily at St james but could have been St John whee they got married

[toni*]

a) Alfred/ Annie Susan

Georgette 1858
Alfred James 1860 (followed him through census to death plus have wife / childrens details)
Ann Susan 1863
Elizabeth Selina christened 11 May 1866 with Alfred James and Rosina Sarah
Rosina Sarah 1866


b) Robert/ Sarah

Mary Susan 1863 }
Robert  1866  / 67}
Sarah Ann 1867 / 68 } i have not followed these on the census but i found Sarah Anns marriage

c) Alfred/Sarah

Richard 1870 (found his marriage)
Emma 1874


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i found Alfred Urwin (senior)  in 1851
 HO107;  1495; 347;  76

[janan]

oh another year 

and the banns werent necessarily at St james but could have been St John whee they got married

 I've just looked through and there are actually two sets of banns following the St James' marriages, no indication of church but they can't both be St James So highly likely the second set are for St John.

Jan

[toni*]

Georgette Urwin b. 1858 with mother in 1861 with father in 1871
1881 with Rosina Osborn as sister Georgette Cullmer
married under the name of Cullmer in 1888 to Noble Edwin Smith
gives her father was william Cullmer - maybe she fell out with Aflred Urwin
she does appear to be born before Annie Susan Cullmers marriage to Alfred Urwin (1859)
i think we can pretty much follow her ok.

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did you notice there was a Georgette Cullmer b. 1888 Chelsea

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Rosina Sarah Urwin marries Isaac William Osborn using the name Cullmer  in 1879


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Annie Susan jnr was actually born in 1862 not 1863
she marries George William Carter (transcribed as Cartle) in 18 Nov 1888

[toni*]

Mary Susan Skidmore
i found her christening  & birth reg in 1863
no apparent death she is not with Sarah in 1871
i did however find a MAry Skidmore aged 10 in 1871 with mother Mary and sister Emma
i wonder if Mary Skidmore senior s a sister of Robert Skidmore ?
someone has submitted changes and
Mary Skidmore senior is aka Mary Frances Pike (which would not make her a sister to Robert)
Mary Skidmore junior is also given as Mary Susan Skidmore
and Emma as Emma Frances Skidmore

just to confuse you slightly
there is a Mary Susanna Urwin married to a Smith Urwin from the 1891 census onwards
her y.o.b ties in with our MAry but her p.o.b is different (Northumberland) her detah s registred as Q1 1941 in Northumberland


i would say the first Mary needs investigating and the 2nd mary is unlikely to be ours.

[toni*]

there is a Robert Skidmore b. 1866 Finsbury on the 1901 census
RG13; : 258; 79;  39.

i dont as yet know that this is 'our' Robert

he is with Alfred & Sarah in 1881 under the name Urwin p.o.b Shoreditch
 RG11;  364; : 32;  56

i suspect that the enumartor asked for relationship and they said son hence the name Urwin is listed and not Skidmore

[toni*]

Sarah Ann Skidmore is with Alfred & Sarah in 1871 & 1881 and married in 1890 to George George Frederick Bowry
1891 with George & daughter Violet Maud aged 4 months
: RG12;  230;  106;  41

and 1901

RG13; : 182; 106;  62.

they seemed to have gained a duaghter Amy R (aged 16)  i guess she is from a  previous marriage of Georges  not actually investigated this.

[toni*]

a couple of children for Sarah Ann & George Frederick

George Frederick Bowry b. Nov 25th  christened 24 Dec 1893  St Botolph without Bishopsgate
 Violet Maud Bowry b. 10th Dec 1890 christened 24 Dec 1893 St Botolph without Bishopsgate