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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #171 on: Thursday 01 December 16 10:30 GMT (UK) »
I'm sure it would have been devastating - but I don't think Edward was the best role model when he was alive.  We probably already have this, but Edward Culmer appears before the Dover Assizes as reported in the Kentish Gazette of the 5th April 1833 for an assault on William Gilbert Tucker.  Result was given that it was "not a true bill" (is that a forerunner of not enough evidence?)

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #172 on: Thursday 01 December 16 10:41 GMT (UK) »
Spidermonkey,
Many thanks for this snippet, which I didn't have - I'll add it to Edward's biodata file, which is quite thin.
CUL(L)MER: N, E + SE London 19 cent, E Kent pre 1830, New York post 1850, Vic Australia post 1850
JOHNSON: (dockers/ropemakers) Tower Hamlets pre WWII
OSBORN:(dyers, scourers & gloove cleaners) Hoxton, Islington, Clerkenwell pre 1900
KEWLEY: Bradford 1830-1913, IoM pre 1850
CANNELL: IoM pre 1820
FABB: Cambridge
COLE(S): Warks/Oxon border pre 1830
RILEY: (RC) Bishopsgate area pre 1800
HALE: Brighton pre 1850
KIPPS: E Kent pre 1750
HARDING: MEOT post 1850, Bath Area pre 1850
PARTINGTON Lancs

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #173 on: Thursday 01 December 16 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Another snippet for you:

George Culmer, 50, fishmonger, charged with assaulting Elizabeth Culmer, his wife, ...... discharged with no appearing against him. (Kentish Mercury, 16th Jan 1841)

Is there anyone else who is looking a 'bit thin' that we could work on?

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #174 on: Thursday 01 December 16 20:00 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for confirming what you know about Edwards parentage it is helpful - even though I am not directly connected.
As Warren Ingram is my partners 3 x great uncle on his mothers side and on his fathers side James Hickman of the onion pie murder is his 1st cousin 4 x removed!
i have drawn up a tree (in pencil)
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #175 on: Friday 02 December 16 14:07 GMT (UK) »
I see we are on page 20!

I was trying to ascertain whether the Susannah Smith (widow) who Warren is lodging with in 1901 is in fact Susannah Wheeler nee Foster she married Samuel Nixon Wheeler jnr in 1868 and Sam died in 1872.

I appreciate there are probably hundreds of Susannah Smiths & Wheelers and I couldn’t see a relevant marriage (except in Oxford)

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #176 on: Friday 02 December 16 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Have we got that Samuel NIxon Wheeler senior (b. c. 1816) was indentured as an apprentice in the Merchant Navy in 1831?

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #177 on: Friday 02 December 16 14:36 GMT (UK) »
In 1871:

11 Nicholas Street, Mile End

Samuel N Wheeler  Head  26  Mar  Waterproofer  bn Stepney
Susannah Wheeler  Wife  25  Mar  bn Walworth
Amy S Wheeler  Dau  1  bn Hackney
Fred S Wheeler  Son  under 5 months  bn Mile End

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #178 on: Friday 02 December 16 14:45 GMT (UK) »
Amy Susanna dies in 1872
Frederick Samuel dies in 1871

If Samuel Nixon Wheeler junior also dies in 1872, then Susannah is totally alone :'(

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #179 on: Saturday 03 December 16 11:17 GMT (UK) »
Samuel Nixon Wheeler was married to Ellen Francklin & is Ellen Wheelers father (although i'm not entirely sure he was Harry b.1856 father as he had died before then!)  but I did not have his indenture to the merchant navy. I think we just concentrated on the main characters of the fire ring and Sam had died before then.

I can't find the 1901 census now in the thread but Warren Ingram was lodging with Susannah Smith at 54 Whiskin Street or is Susannah 54? I can't remember
maybe Susannah Smith was just his landlady.
Also i'm sorry but I can't remember either what Warren was doing in 1901 in terms of employment.
 
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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