Jolly Forgeman Inn, Newbridge

[JamesDMcBust]

Bingo!  You were spot on Wilcoxon!  William Evans parents were EVAN EVANS and ELIZA.  Looking back at some very old notes of mine I saw that I too had thought they might have been the pair but I needed the proof.  So there's not the link with the Jolly Forgeman Inn that I originally thought (except that Elsie Evans was born there whilst her father was the inn keeper).

Now to start looking for Eliza's maiden name.  I have a feeling I might have to come back to the thread for help on this.

James

[wilcoxon]

  I am almost certain I have the marriage, but won`t reveal it in case it spoils your fun.

If you are stuck, please ask 

[Morganllan]

Hello 

This could be the family in 1881:

Coed Mawr, Hope, Flintshire

Evan Evans Head age 35  Coal Miner      
Eliza Evans Wife age 35
Ann Evans Daur age 13
Sarah Evans Daur age 10
John Evans Son age 8
William Evans Son  age 5
Thomas Evans Son age 3
Hannah Evans  Daur age 7 months

All born Hope, Flintshire

RG11 Piece 3566 Folio 45 Page 32

Kind Regards
Morgan

[Morganllan]

and in 1891, still at Coed Mawr:

Evan Evans Head age 44 Coal Miner
Eliza Evans Wife age 44
John Evans Son age 18 Coal Miner
William Evans Son age   16 Coal Miner
Thomas Evans  Son age 13 Ag Farmer's Labourer
Oswell Evans Son age 8 Scholar
Elidia Evans Dau age 5 Scholar
Mathew H Evans Son age 2

RG12 Piece 2870 Folio 56 Page 2

[Morganllan]

1901 Evan, Eliza and family had moved to 2 Furnace Road, Ffrwd, Brymbo

Evan Evans Head age 54 Coal Miner hewer born Leeswood
Eliza Evans Wife age 55  born Cymmau
John Evans Son age 28 Iron Works Carter   born Cymmau
Oswell Evans Son age 17 Ironworks Smith   born Cymmau
Lydia Evans Dau age 14 Scholar   born Cymmau
Matthew H Evans Son age 11   born Cymmau

RG13 Piece 5221 Folio 45 Page 3

Modified:
You can search for the births, etc on Northwalesbmd, using Flintshire (Mold) Region and Hawarden as sub-registration district:

http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi?county=northwales

[Morganllan]

Evan and Eliza with children Ann and Sarah in 1871 at Siopymynydd? , Hope

RG10 Piece 3737 Folio 55 Page 21

In 1861, Evan was with his widowed Mother Ann at Caergwrle

Ann Evans Head age 54
Edwin Evans Son age 22  Coal Miner
Harriet Evans Dau age 21  Farm Servant  born Llanrhydd
Evan Evans Son age 15  Coal Miner  born Leeswood
George Evans  Son age 10 Scholar  born Leeswood
John Evans Grandson age 1  born Hope

RG9 Piece 4277 Folio 136 Page 14

[Morganllan]

1851 at Leeswood Cottage, Pontblyddin

John Evans  Head age 39 Farm Labourer
Ann Evans Wife age 40  born Llandyrnog, Denbighs
William Evans Son age 13 Coal Miner  born Ruthin, Denbighs
Edwin Evans Son age 19 Coal Miner born Ruthin,  Denbighs
Harriot Evans Dau age 10  Scholar  born Mold
Evan Evans Son age 4 born Mold
George Evans Son age 1 born Mold

[JamesDMcBust]

Hello Morganllan.

Thank you for all this work - You have been busy.  You are absolutely spot on with the family.

I've further  discovered that Eliza's maiden name was Edwards - marriage to Evan at Wrexham, Dec qutr 1867, 11b pg 537.

Onwards and upwards.

James

[wilcoxon]

A tip for you, if you find a North Wales marriage, check it out on http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/index.php

It will tell you if it was a Civil Marriage or Church. In this case it was at Hope Parish Church.


North Wales Marriage indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
EVANS Evan EDWARDS Eliza Hope, St Cynfarch Flintshire (Mold) C111/01/E328

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Siop y Mynydd is a farm on top of Hope Mountain