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Red Barn Murder 1828
« on: Monday 19 December 11 22:29 GMT (UK) »
I discovered that I was related to Maria earlier this year! Her grandfather is my great^6 grandfather, her father being my great^4 grandfather's 1st cousin.

I have begun my own research into the events and have come across a number of inconsistencies.

I would love to hear from anyone else who has researched the Murder and any other descendants.

Thanks in advance
Sparkgirl (nee Martin)

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North Kent (Darford-Rochester) - Martin, Carter, Davis, Redsell, Hollands, Hartup, Kendle, Willmouth
Portsea - New, Clarke, Oxford, Wallis
Polstead - Martin/Marten inc Red Barn Murder
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Melrose(ish) - Grant/Millar
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Re: Red Barn Murder 1828
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 09:04 GMT (UK) »
Hello Sparkgirl and welcome to RC.  I remember years ago the Ipswich Theatre did some research on the Maria Marten murder and at that time it was obvious there were inconsistencies relating to who actually did the deed.  It may well be that Corder was an innocent man, and I would be interested to hear how your research progresses.  I'm afraid I don't have any info I could help you with, unfortunately. 

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Re: Red Barn Murder 1828
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 09:29 GMT (UK) »
There is a copy of William Corder's death mask ( and other rather gruesome items!) at Moyes Hall Museum, Bury St Edmunds - the museum website also has quite a bit of information about the case:

http://www.stedmundsbury.gov.uk/sebc/visit/redbarn-intro.cfm

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Re: Red Barn Murder 1828
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Some years ago I was in touch with a researcher who had the family story to the present day.  I lived in that area of Suffolk for forty years and took some photographs of Polstead to send for her records.

I will see if I have any details and if I can find them will PM you.

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moved across the county three weeks ago!
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?


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Re: Red Barn Murder 1828
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 December 11 12:43 GMT (UK) »
I recall many years ago as a school governor seeing a play performed based on these events.
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Re: Red Barn Murder 1828
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 December 11 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi

       Maria was my 1st Cousinx5. Good luck getting at the truth.
Willis--Polstead, Stoke & Colchester
Bones--Purleigh & Danbury
Humm--Woodham Mortimer & Great Henny
Ong--Woodham Mortimer
Osborne---London & Sible Hedingham
Guckes---Kent & London
Ingram--Wrotham
Ridley--Ightham
Root--Trottiscliffe
Hollands--Wrotham
Wagstaff--Fingringhoe & Birch
Brewster--Writtle
Martin--Polstead
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Re: Red Barn Murder 1828
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 December 11 16:01 GMT (UK) »
My ancestor was in the crowd at the execution!...

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Re: Red Barn Murder 1828
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 February 15 05:22 GMT (UK) »
Dredging up a long ago thread here, but I thought I ought to add on the off chance that people are still active.

I am allegedly a descent of the Martin family in the famed Red Barn Murder, though I have yet to find the proof.

Today I made the first breakthrough and read that although you often see the name Maria Marten in the media, her name was actually Maria Martin. Now I've discovered that I feel like the story I heard could be true and I'd like to start following the paper trail.

If anyone out there would be willing to help please do drop me a private message.

Thanks!
Gilbert ~ London, Essex.
Nutt ~ Sussex England, Ayrshire Scotland, Ireland.
Scully, Richards, Stepney, Goble ~ Sussex.
James ~ London, Essex, Sussex, Pembrokeshire.
Lochhead ~ Ayrshire/ Nielston Renfrewshire Scotland.
Dunn, Airdry/Airdrie ~ Ayrshire Scotland, Donaghadee Ireland.
McCreadie, McQuaters/McWaters ~ Ireland
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Re: Red Barn Murder 1828
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 February 15 08:26 GMT (UK) »
Interesting story. Poor Maria.

I was just browsing rootschat and just popped in to add that the spelling of the surname is fairly irrelevant as back in those days people would not have been as hung up on correct spellings as we are today, so Martin/Marten makes no difference. The spellings would be interchangeable and the surname spoken exactly the same way no matter what the spelling.

I notice that the OP has not returned to this topic, and the last time they visited rootschat was Oct 2013 - this may be why there has been little response for some time - everpne has given up.  ::)

Anyway, it is often good to revive old threads as new information can come to loght, so good lick with the search.