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Urgent help needed
« on: Tuesday 20 December 11 10:22 GMT (UK) »
Dear all
I know that we're in the week leading up to Christmas, but I am hoping that you can help me.  one of my dearest friends is dying and may not see new year (its really sad).  She has always wanted to do her family tree, so as a last gift to her, I've offered to do it for her.  As I'm also at work leading up to Christmas, I feel that I am running out of time to get as much info to her as possible!  I have done some, but wondered if I put some basic details on here, if some of you really kind lovely people would just take a little of your very precious time and see what you can find?  I don't mind if I get 10 people find the same thing!  My thoughts are, the more people working on this, the more we will find in a short time.  I've started on A******y and have found out some of her family.  If I give you the details of her parents and grandparents, etc. then I'll leave the rest up to you.  The more obscure the findings are the better.  What I've managed to show her so far has really cheered her up and has given her something else to focus on.  Thank you so much for taking time to read this and to help wherever you can.  It means such a lot to me (and her).

Lisa

Father: Donald Neal born 1905 Burslem, Staffordshire, died 1961 Coventry
Donalds father: John Joseph Neal born 1878 Church Gresley, Derbys
Donalds mother: Emily Pocock born 1880, Church Gresley, Derbys
John Josephs parents: Joseph Neal and Sarah Mackie
Emilys parents: Thomas Pocock and Sarah ?

Mother: Winifred Murial Cane born 6 Apr 1910, Hampstead died 1981 Leamington
Winifreds father: Frederick Cane born 22 May 1882, Hampstead
Winifreds mother: Agnes Bertha Clarke born 1883 St Pancras died 1967 Harrow
Fredericks parents: Richard Cane and Emma Jones
Agnes parents: George Clarke and Clara?

The family seemed to have a fascination with Portugal.  My friend is very interested in the Pocock name as it her middle name and also until I found it, she hadn't heard of the name Mackie.

thanks everyone
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Re: Urgent help needed
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lisa

What a special gift for your friend,  I'm sure we can help!  Here's a start:

1881: 3 Halls Row, Hamlet of Swadlincote, Church Gresely, Derbyshire
RG11 / Piece: 2758 / Folio: 40 / Page: 11
Head: Joseph NEAL 20, Fireman at Pipe Works, b Wilson, Leicester
Wife: Sarah NEAL 29,  b Wilson, Leicester
Dau: Amey Jane NEAL 4, b Kings Newton, Derbyshire
Son: John Joseph NEAL 3, b Greseley
Dau: Ada NEAL 3mths, b Swadlincote
Father-in-Law: John MACKIE 77, widower, no occupation, b Wilson, Leicester

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http://www.derbyphotos.co.uk/areas_p_z/swadlincote.htm

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~brett/woodville/wood_wjmackie.htm
This takes you well back & around  with the MACKIE's - an excellent site for you:


Cheers
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Re: Urgent help needed
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 11:59 GMT (UK) »
Here is little Emily in 1881:

POCOCK, Thomas Head Married M 44 1837 General Laborer
 Shalbourne Berkshire   
POCOCK, Sarah Wife Married F 42 1839
 Chilton Wiltshire
POCOCK, May Maria Daughter Single F 21 1860
 Chilton Wiltshire
POCOCK, John Son Single M 15 1866 Potter
 Rivar Parish of Shalbourne 
POCOCK, Elizabeth Priscilla Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
 Inkpen Berkshire
POCOCK, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 4 1877
 Church Gresley Derbyshire
POCOCK, Emily Daughter Single F 1 1880
 Church Gresley Derbyshire
POCOCK, A Elizabeth Grand Daughter Single F 1 1880
 Swadlincote Derbyshire

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Re: Urgent help needed
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 12:04 GMT (UK) »
The Pocock family in 1861:

The Lane, Shalbourne. Berkshire:

POCOCK, Thomas Head Married M 24 1837 Labourer
 Shalbourne Berkshire   
POCOCK, Sarah Wife Married F 21 1840
 Chilton Wiltshire
POCOCK, Mary ... Daughter  F 1 1860
 Chilton Wiltshire
POCOCK, Pricilla Daughter  F 0 (5D) 1861
 Shalbourne Wiltshire 

 
 
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Re: Urgent help needed
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 12:07 GMT (UK) »
The Clarke family in 1891

9 Harrow Villas, Willesden
George Clarke  Head  MAr  44  Retired farmer  bn Bucks Adstock
Clara  wife  37
Gertrude A dau  15
Beatrice M  dau  13
John B  son  11
Agnes B  dau  8
Herbert G  son  6
Evelyn M  dau  3  bn Middx Willesden

All born St Pancras unless otherwise mentioned.
RG12; Piece: 1058; Folio 5

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Winifred Muriel Cane is at 51 Parkhill Rd, Hampstead N W in 1911 with her father Frederick and mother Agnes Bertha they had been married 2 years and Winifred was the first child

on 9 Sept 1932 Winfired arrived in Southampton on the ship Flandria which had picked her up in Lexioes, her proposed address in the UK was Tythe Barn Stanmore Middlesex she travelled 2nd class and was a nurse
she was not accompanied and was aged 22
her country of last permanent residence was Portugal and her intended future residence was foreign countires.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 12:14 GMT (UK) »
Clarke family 1881 - with a prior wife?
44 Rochester Rd
George Clarke  Head  Mar  34 Minister of the Catholic Apostle Church serving at Gordon Square (I think)  bn Bucks Adstock
Alice M Clarke  Wife  33
Gertrude A Clarke  dau  5
Beatrice M Clarke  dau 3
John B Clarke  son  1

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RG11; Piece: 212; Folio: 74; Page: 9

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 12:17 GMT (UK) »
George Clarke mar Alice Mary Goodhall Sept qtr 1874 Pancras 1b 301

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 December 11 12:22 GMT (UK) »
Agnes Bertha Clarke was a Governess in 1901 to the Crabtree Family in Worcester
a Governess was not the best job to have as they were expected to do work in the house and look after the children in additon to teaching them so long hours in exchange usually for bed and board.

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Governess sometimes didnt know much more than the eldest child in their charge
there was no formal training for them and sometiems they were expected to help out with the household chores, they couldnt socialise with the family or with the staff so they were rather inbetweeners and sometimes with young males in the hosue and an unaccompanied young lady problems arose!
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